Kindle to utilize epub format in late 2022 - Page 8

MGlitch · 05-09-2022, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hleo12

It probably costs Amazon quite a few. Agents are waaaay too trigger happy to offer up replacements/discounts when they can't solve an issue (which 90% they can't).

The last problem I experienced, the amazon agent I chatted with just straight up said they could start the replacement process. I don't think they even checked my address and how I bought my Kindle. I don't know if they can even offer me a replacement because I don't have Amazon here, and I bought my Kindle not from Amazon (does Amazon offer replacement on Kindles when you didn't buy it directly from them?).

Amazon cares more about keeping you in their ecosystem than where you bought the device. There’s also a manufacturer warranty though without details I can’t say if you’d have been covered by that. But yes in general Amazon is all about doing whatever they can to keep you happy and buying from them.

hleo12 · 05-10-2022, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MGlitch

Amazon cares more about keeping you in their ecosystem than where you bought the device. There’s also a manufacturer warranty though without details I can’t say if you’d have been covered by that. But yes in general Amazon is all about doing whatever they can to keep you happy and buying from them.

My Kindle was about a month old during that time. So I guess they went with my registration date.

conili · 05-10-2022, 10:14 AM

Hello, sorry to intrude. I bought a kindle recently (like yesterday). I have epubs on Google books that I own, I also borrow from libraries.

I have used Calibre convert and transfer and to deACSM and convert before transfering.

Then I see this. But I do not understand.
If I send an epub that I own via email it will read it?
If I send via calibre do I have to convert?

Thank you and apologies for being that noob. First time kindle and ereader user.

hleo12 · 05-10-2022, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by conili

Hello, sorry to intrude. I bought a kindle recently (like yesterday). I have epubs on Google books that I own, I also borrow from libraries.

I have used Calibre convert and transfer and to deACSM and convert before transfering.

Then I see this. But I do not understand.
If I send an epub that I own via email it will read it?
If I send via calibre do I have to convert?

Thank you and apologies for being that noob. First time kindle and ereader user.

send-to-kindle now accepts epubs as attachments. You don't need to convert them anymore before emailing (unless there's a problem with the epub file).
I'm assuming when you said 'send via calibre' you meant via usb. If so, you still need to convert your epub to a suitable Kindle format (mobi, azw, azw3, kfx)

Quoth · 05-10-2022, 11:23 AM

However:
1) epubs with DRM like libraries, won't work.
2) Removing DRM from library books is unfair and often a violation of Library rules or even illegal.
3) Send to Kindle is inferior and slower than USB. It's using the Internet twice.
4) Send to Kindle gives Amazon a copy. There is no 3rd party oversight of this. They are not just a service company. They own IMDB and Goodreads and sell books. I can't believe they don't misuse this or why offer it?
5) Conversion of epubs via Calibre to KF8 mobi or AZW3 KF8 and transfer via USB is still superior than Send to Kindle.

hleo12 · 05-10-2022, 11:41 AM

I agree with the post above.

Whispersync was the main reason why I use send-to-kindle. But now that we can't get book covers, I see no reason to use it anymore.
I'll be sideloading via usb my non-amazon books now.

shalym · 05-16-2022, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ahecht

The library and the lock screen.

The covers still show on the lock screen, just not the thumbnails.

Shari

GnRFan79 · 05-17-2022, 04:28 PM

Does this resolve the formatting issues that you got when sending .mobi files via email to kindle?

For example the main issue being the line spacing - it is either too great or too little and doesn’t match the line spacing you get with a book purchased from the Amazon Kindle store?

GeniusJ · 05-17-2022, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GnRFan79

Does this resolve the formatting issues that you got when sending .mobi files via email to kindle?

For example the main issue being the line spacing - it is either too great or too little and doesn’t match the line spacing you get with a book purchased from the Amazon Kindle store?

I've never noticed this problem at all. If the MOBI is clean, it should look good on the Kindle.

GnRFan79 · 05-18-2022, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GeniusJ

I've never noticed this problem at all. If the MOBI is clean, it should look good on the Kindle.

I’d love to know how to make a Mobi file clean. Whenever I’ve converted an epub to mobi and then sent it via email to my Kindle, the gap between each line of text is either too much or too little, depending on the font being used on the Kindle.

Do you have an example of a clean mobi file I could try out?

GeniusJ · 05-18-2022, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GnRFan79

I’d love to know how to make a Mobi file clean. Whenever I’ve converted an epub to mobi and then sent it via email to my Kindle, the gap between each line of text is either too much or too little, depending on the font being used on the Kindle.

Do you have an example of a clean mobi file I could try out?

I don't, but I can tell you that when I use Bookerly as my font I don't see any of these spacing problems.

JSWolf · 05-18-2022, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GnRFan79

I’d love to know how to make a Mobi file clean. Whenever I’ve converted an epub to mobi and then sent it via email to my Kindle, the gap between each line of text is either too much or too little, depending on the font being used on the Kindle.

Do you have an example of a clean mobi file I could try out?

Using the same font will give you the same line space. If not, can you please post some photos showing otherwise?

GeniusJ · 05-18-2022, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Using the same font will give you the same line space. If not, can you please post some photos showing otherwise?

I'd also like to see a picture of what's happening here.

If I could see an example epub file also, I can try converting to mobi and see if I'm getting the same result.

JSWolf · 05-18-2022, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GeniusJ

I'd also like to see a picture of what's happening here.

If I could see an example epub file also, I can try converting to mobi and see if I'm getting the same result.

Try this ePub. I know the code is good as I made it.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=177182

hleo12 · 05-18-2022, 02:26 PM

Or maybe it's one of those options inside Calibre's convert function? There are style options there that automatically adds/deletes spaces between lines/paragraphs. It's worth a check.

I almost exclusively sideloaded via email before this change and I've never encountered this. My main problem with send-to-kindle mobi is it has a problem with justified text.

05-10-2022, 10:14 AM	#108
conili Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2022 Device: Kindle 10th	What does this mean to new kindle user? Hello, sorry to intrude. I bought a kindle recently (like yesterday). I have epubs on Google books that I own, I also borrow from libraries. I have used Calibre convert and transfer and to deACSM and convert before transfering. Then I see this. But I do not understand. If I send an epub that I own via email it will read it? If I send via calibre do I have to convert? Thank you and apologies for being that noob. First time kindle and ereader user.

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05-10-2022, 11:23 AM	#110
Quoth Still reading Posts: 14,145 Karma: 105211945 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper	However: 1) epubs with DRM like libraries, won't work. 2) Removing DRM from library books is unfair and often a violation of Library rules or even illegal. 3) Send to Kindle is inferior and slower than USB. It's using the Internet twice. 4) Send to Kindle gives Amazon a copy. There is no 3rd party oversight of this. They are not just a service company. They own IMDB and Goodreads and sell books. I can't believe they don't misuse this or why offer it? 5) Conversion of epubs via Calibre to KF8 mobi or AZW3 KF8 and transfer via USB is still superior than Send to Kindle.

05-10-2022, 11:41 AM	#111
hleo12 Guru Posts: 655 Karma: 5078890 Join Date: Feb 2014 Device: Kobo Glo (deceased), Kindle 4th, Kindle Basic 10th Generation	I agree with the post above. Whispersync was the main reason why I use send-to-kindle. But now that we can't get book covers, I see no reason to use it anymore. I'll be sideloading via usb my non-amazon books now.

05-17-2022, 04:28 PM	#113
GnRFan79 Enthusiast Posts: 47 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2021 Device: Kindle Oasis	Does this resolve the formatting issues that you got when sending .mobi files via email to kindle? For example the main issue being the line spacing - it is either too great or too little and doesn’t match the line spacing you get with a book purchased from the Amazon Kindle store?

05-18-2022, 02:26 PM	#120
hleo12 Guru Posts: 655 Karma: 5078890 Join Date: Feb 2014 Device: Kobo Glo (deceased), Kindle 4th, Kindle Basic 10th Generation	Or maybe it's one of those options inside Calibre's convert function? There are style options there that automatically adds/deletes spaces between lines/paragraphs. It's worth a check. I almost exclusively sideloaded via email before this change and I've never encountered this. My main problem with send-to-kindle mobi is it has a problem with justified text.