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[DNSB]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

So San Deigo, right? If so, I get that. But I got the distinct impression ZW and ApK's outbound IPs were locations other than the location of the firewalls at their companies' various datacenters.

Correct.

So far I've managed to avoid making much use of any of the cloud VPN solutions. One I did need to use showed me as connecting to the Internet from one of their locations (they listed 5, I managed to hit 3). Looking at the packet use, any packet that was not going to an address destined for the corporate tunnel was split off at their location so it appeared to be originating there.

[rcentros]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I don't use an ad-blocker myself. If I encounter a site where normal navigation becomes a chore because of jumping, blinking, popping, moving, ad content, I just don't frequent that site any more. But "normal," well-behaved ads on the side? They don't bother me at all.

I wouldn't browse the Internet without uBlock Origin. I'm not into self-torture.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by rcentros

I wouldn't browse the Internet without uBlock Origin. I'm not into self-torture.

Me either. I've tried a couple of times, from curiosity. Pure hell. Many local sites display ribbon ads which run at the bottom of the screen and decrease the screen real estate. Just awful.

[ApK]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

So San Deigo, right? If so, I get that. But I got the distinct impression ZW and ApK's outbound IPs were locations other than the location of the firewalls at their companies' various datacenters.

I'm probably just showing my age.

Company HQ with outbound public Internet access and security based at Omaha.
Various datacenters and offices, connected on a WAN, around the world.
Remote employees can connect to VPN endpoints at several of those datacenters.
All of us then work on the same company network, which appears to the Internet as being in Omaha.
Honestly, it's been so long since I was last in my actual office, which is also in NJ, I can't remember if my external Internet showed as NJ or Omaha, but neither one would strike me as odd or as an attempt at obfuscation. Just a factor of some network architect's optimizations, I'd guess.

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by rcentros

I wouldn't browse the Internet without uBlock Origin. I'm not into self-torture.

Neither am I. Hyperbole much?

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Neither am I. Hyperbole much?

Depends. For me, browsing the net without adblock really is mental torture. People are different and their tolerance for various things is very different too.

[DiapDealer]

No doubt. For instance: my tolerance for hyperbole is lower than some.

[ApK]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

No doubt. For instance: my tolerance for hyperbole is lower than some.

Trillions of times lower....

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by ApK

Trillions of times lower....

Quite.

[rcentros]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

No doubt. For instance: my tolerance for hyperbole is lower than some.

Try uBlock Origin. You'll like it. And then you'll see what I mean by "self-torture" when going without it. And it's not hyperbole — the first thing I install on a new computer is uBlock Origin. I haven't watched broadcast television for over 15 years and would not watch TV if I had to sit through the ads. It's just not worth it.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

I don't get one thing. All this talk about ads... site ads? Pop-up ads? I never see any. Sometimes I spend most of the day online, reading news, visiting lots of websites, doing Google searches etc, yet still without seeing a single ad.

(Of course, I use Adblock and update its filters regularly - I guess that's the reason? But surely I'm not the only one here using it).

I use AdBlocker Ultimate. I find it works better then AdBlock Pro.

[gmw]

In my rural location the Internet service was once very very slow (64k ISDN, which was still better than dial-up), and then for a few years only very slow (weak signal 3G) and is now only intermittently very slow (weak signal 4G). This has affected my tolerance of Internet ads, targeted or otherwise. I simply don't have the reliable bandwidth to spend on crap. Mostly I block it at the network firewall, but I also use various forms of filtering in the browser - these days using the feature provided as part of Vivaldi (which I find quite convenient ... just sayin').

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by rcentros

Try uBlock Origin. You'll like it. And then you'll see what I mean by "self-torture" when going without it.

Sure. Sort of like pounding my head against a wall because it will feel good whenever I stop? No thanks. Ads pay for free things I like. As I said already, I only frequent sites with well behaved ads. I'm not going to reward sites that employ overbearing, intrusive and slow-loading ads by continuing to frequent them using an ad-condom. Nor am I going to punish sites that respectfully present a few unobtrusive ads to help defray the costs of maintaining a site I enjoy by blocking them. I'm just going to continue only frequenting sites that don't use abusive ad strategies instead.

Same with broadcast television commercials. I'm quite capable of easily tuning them out if necessary. I typically only ever notice there's a commercial running when someone else in the room is screaming bloody murder about them. *shrug*

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Sure. Sort of like pounding my head against a wall because it will feel good whenever I stop? No thanks. Ads pay for free things I like. As I said already, I only frequent sites with well behaved ads. I'm not going to reward sites that employ overbearing, intrusive and slow-loading ads by continuing to frequent them using an ad-condom. Nor am I going to punish sites that respectfully present a few unobtrusive ads to help defray the costs of maintaining a site I enjoy by blocking them. I'm just going to continue only frequenting sites that don't use abusive ad strategies instead.

Same with broadcast television commercials. I'm quite capable of easily tuning them out if necessary. I typically only ever notice there's a commercial running when someone else in the room is screaming bloody murder about them. *shrug*

The fact remains that you with your high threshold for tolerating visual noise may not even notice something another person finds absolutely intolerable, and calling that other person's perception hyperbole is condescending and arrogant. How can you decide what is hyperbole for me? You don't know how high, low or nonexistent my tolerance threshold is. As I said in a previous post, people are very different.

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

The fact remains that you with your high threshold for tolerating visual noise may not even notice something another person finds absolutely intolerable, and calling that other person's perception hyperbole is condescending and arrogant.

Except when it actually IS hyperbole (which @rcentros' use of "self-torture" clearly was). Assuming, of course, that being subjected to all of that visual ad noise isn't going to actually cause him to yell out his bank account numbers and mother's maiden name just to make it stop.

Originally Posted by Sirtel

How can you decide what is hyperbole for me?

I can't. I didn't. I decided his comment was hyperbole to me. Feel free to see it however you want.
Sorry if my preference to reserve the use of the word "torture" for actual atrocities seems condescending and arrogant to you.