Any chance of mobi created files supporting K2 5-way controller? - Page 2

Nate the great · 03-28-2009, 11:20 PM

See if this one works.

twister · 03-28-2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate the great

See if this one works.

It does not work. Thanks for trying though!

Hadrien · 03-29-2009, 06:15 PM

Try to convert an ePub file to Mobipocket using mobigen and see if it works.

twister · 03-29-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hadrien

Try to convert an ePub file to Mobipocket using mobigen and see if it works.

I have never used mobigen before. Is there any tutorials out there for newer versions of mobigen? I'm not familiar with how to use the command line in mobigen.

Thanks!

wallcraft · 04-05-2009, 08:54 AM

In Kindle Formatting: The Complete Guide Joshua Tallent says that the way to get waypoints into a Kindle ebook (using MobiPocket Creator and then uploading to Amazon's DTP) is to add a toc.ncx. This may be why Hadrian suggested converting an ePub (which has a toc.ncx) to MOBI using mobigen.

This does not tell us what gets added to the resulting MOBI for the K2 to use. When I try exploding Joshua's AZW file (which is DRM-free) using mobi2html (MobiPerl) or mobi2oeb (Calibre) I don't see anything obvious. I get a toc.ncx from mobi2oeb, but that is normal.

Hadrien · 04-05-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wallcraft

In Kindle Formatting: The Complete Guide Joshua Tallent says that the way to get waypoints into a Kindle ebook (using MobiPocket Creator and then uploading to Amazon's DTP) is to add a toc.ncx. This may be why Hadrian suggested converting an ePub (which has a toc.ncx) to MOBI using mobigen.

This does not tell us what gets added to the resulting MOBI for the K2 to use. When I try exploding Joshua's AZW file (which is DRM-free) using mobi2html (MobiPerl) or mobi2oeb (Calibre) I don't see anything obvious. I get a toc.ncx from mobi2oeb, but that is normal.

Yeah that's why I suggested converting an ePub. I'd still like to know exactly what they create with this NCX exactly, and this doesn't explain how newspapers work either.

kovidgoyal · 04-05-2009, 06:12 PM

Like I said earlier, these types of AZW files have an extra record (numbered 116 in my sample) that I believe contains this information. It seems to have a relatively simple format, so should be easy to reverse engineer

Hadrien · 04-06-2009, 04:07 PM

Could someone try the following file ?

Hadrien · 04-07-2009, 09:56 AM

No answer on this thread, but it seems to work fine according to other sources.

Strether · 04-07-2009, 11:17 AM

Yeah, that works. Very slick. Had noticed those marks in the progress track a book that I'd purchased from Amazon and wondered what they meant.

A very handy way of moving around the book. Is it anything regular formatters of e-books can incorporate when we produce books?

Jim

kovidgoyal · 04-07-2009, 11:46 AM

I assume it's made using mobigen from an appropriate OPF?

Hadrien · 04-07-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

I assume it's made using mobigen from an appropriate OPF?

mobigen with the NCX defined in the OPF. Every book on Feedbooks should have this feature in the next 24H.

wallcraft · 04-07-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hadrien

mobigen with the NCX defined in the OPF.

Joshua points out that the toc.ncx can't have nested items, or at least that nested items won't generate waypoints. So he generates a standard MOBI TOC and a potentially simplified toc.ncx. See post 7 of Section Skipping / Chapter Skipping on Kindle / .MOBI.

kovidgoyal · 04-07-2009, 12:04 PM

Unfortunately we still don't know what is required in the MOBI file so at least as far as calibre is concerned, until someone finds the time to reverse engineer that, it's a no-no.

Hadrien · 04-07-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wallcraft

Joshua points out that the toc.ncx can't have nested items, or at least that nested items won't generate waypoints. So he generates a standard MOBI TOC and a potentially simplified toc.ncx. See post 7 of Section Skipping / Chapter Skipping on Kindle / .MOBI.

That's interesting.
1) Mobipocket could do a much better job and use the playOrder to get rid of their problem with nested elements
2) I'll generate the NCX with the same elements, but not nested.

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03-29-2009, 06:15 PM	#18
Hadrien Feedbooks.com Co-Founder Posts: 2,263 Karma: 145123 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Paris, France Device: Sony PRS-t-1/350/300/500/505/600/700, Nexus S, iPad	Try to convert an ePub file to Mobipocket using mobigen and see if it works.

04-05-2009, 08:54 AM	#20
wallcraft reader Posts: 6,977 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	In Kindle Formatting: The Complete Guide Joshua Tallent says that the way to get waypoints into a Kindle ebook (using MobiPocket Creator and then uploading to Amazon's DTP) is to add a toc.ncx. This may be why Hadrian suggested converting an ePub (which has a toc.ncx) to MOBI using mobigen. This does not tell us what gets added to the resulting MOBI for the K2 to use. When I try exploding Joshua's AZW file (which is DRM-free) using mobi2html (MobiPerl) or mobi2oeb (Calibre) I don't see anything obvious. I get a toc.ncx from mobi2oeb, but that is normal.

04-05-2009, 06:12 PM	#22
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,604 Karma: 28548974 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Like I said earlier, these types of AZW files have an extra record (numbered 116 in my sample) that I believe contains this information. It seems to have a relatively simple format, so should be easy to reverse engineer

04-07-2009, 09:56 AM	#24
Hadrien Feedbooks.com Co-Founder Posts: 2,263 Karma: 145123 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Paris, France Device: Sony PRS-t-1/350/300/500/505/600/700, Nexus S, iPad	No answer on this thread, but it seems to work fine according to other sources.

04-07-2009, 11:17 AM	#25
Strether Guru Posts: 765 Karma: 2825929 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fresno Device: Kindle 1; iPad Air; iPhone 7; Kobo Libra; Kindle Oasis 3	Yeah, that works. Very slick. Had noticed those marks in the progress track a book that I'd purchased from Amazon and wondered what they meant. A very handy way of moving around the book. Is it anything regular formatters of e-books can incorporate when we produce books? Jim

04-07-2009, 11:46 AM	#26
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,604 Karma: 28548974 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	I assume it's made using mobigen from an appropriate OPF?

04-07-2009, 12:04 PM	#29
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,604 Karma: 28548974 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Unfortunately we still don't know what is required in the MOBI file so at least as far as calibre is concerned, until someone finds the time to reverse engineer that, it's a no-no.