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			Red Mars By Kim Stanley Robinson $1.99 AMazon, Kobo and B&N 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I enjoyed them and am glad I completed them but I stalled several times trying to get through them.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	I thought there were a lot of good ideas in them that seemed plausible, especially given our knowledge of Mars in the early 90s, but I'm not sure how well they stand up to our current science. I would say, if they do stand up to current science, they would be good to read as still "plausible." That's the fund part of these books to me. But if they no longer really align with the science then I wouldn't try reading them if you have stalled out already.  | 
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			I read the Mars trilogy as an impressionable youth so can't critique it well. They're overlong, and plodding at times, but I overall enjoyed it, and the scope and time scale is impressive. (I didn't read the short story collection.) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Whatever outdated science they have, had I known it, wouldn't have affected my own enjoyment from it. (Ignore grammar mistakes in the preceding sentence)  | 
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			Eh, $2. The trilogy is a classic. I bought it 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	 
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			I barely managed to slog through the first one - the characters were utterly uninteresting to me. Maybe it gets better?
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I got through Red Mars and Green Mars, but I discarded Blue Mars & The Martians from my TBR pile. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Let's see.... that was back in 2010. What did I say about it? Red Mars: "it didn't really work for me" Green Mars: "slow and lumbering" I'm not surprised I discarded the sequels.  | 
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			I read them and there's some really interesting scientific stuff in there, but there's just way too many characters.  All of them get lots of character development, so it's hard to keep track of everything.  They didn't pull me in and keep my interest the way other series have and I've never had any desire to re-read them, nor try any of Robinson's other books.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	I only really finished them to find out what Mars ended up like in the end, plus I try not to abandon series. (The only one I have is Gentry Lee's abysmal and depressing sequels to Arthur C. Clarke's Rendezvous With Rama. They're the worst books I've ever read and I regret the time I wasted reading them.) They're not awful, but I don't understand why people rave about them either.  | 
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			The Adventures of Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser Volume One (Swords and Deviltry, Swords Against Death, and Swords in the Mist) by Fritz Leiber is available for £2.59 at Kobo UK. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			https://www.kobo.com/gb/en/ebook/the...he-gray-mouser or (it seems to make no difference) https://www.kobo.com/gb/en/ebook/the...ser-volume-one Curiously the individual books Swords and Deviltry and Swords Against Death are also on offer (price reduced) for £3.99 and £3.39 respectively... Last edited by Alastair_S; 02-23-2022 at 06:58 PM.  | 
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 In the 1990's Howard Chaykin and Mike Mignola did comic adaptations of several stories. I wish those would get a digital release. They were fantastic.  | 
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			Gosh, I still have those; I catalogued them last summer...  As I recall, there was a fashion for 'literary' miniseries and graphic novels around that time - I have The Hobbit, The Ring of the Nibelung, Hitch-Hiker's Guide, various Anne Rice titles, Dragonflight, Jhereg among others.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 The painted Hobbit was beautiful. I'm surprised there wasn't a digital release of that one yet. When you mention The Ring of the Nibelung, I'm guessing you mean the Roy Thomas/Gil Kane adaptation? I enjoyed that one and wish there was a digital version. Have you seen the P. Craig Russell version of The Ring? Who'd have thought The Ring of the Nibelung opera cycle would receive two comic adaptations? Russell has adapted several operas in the past. His work is spectacular. ![]()  
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			I really want to read Russell's adaptation. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			ZodWallop, after all the convincing, when you finally try Red Mars, please share your thoughts.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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