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Treachery of images ...
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Interesting conversation.
Out of curiosity. If you decrypted an ebook, then created a new, empty epub in, say, Calibre in which you recreate the structure of the decrypted ebook, then copy the contents of the xhtml files (not the actual xhtml file) from the decrypted ebook to the xhtml pages in the new recreated epub, would that remove all the identifying information? |
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Bibliophagist
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See this message and several others in that thread and elsewhere. Sometimes I begin to wonder about other people's inability to remember useless information combined with shameful Google-Fu. Last edited by DNSB; 11-22-2021 at 10:10 PM. Reason: Added memory and Google-Fu comment |
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#1354 |
Treachery of images ...
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Loss or theft of a device, or theft of the bag - or car - that the device was in. (Farfetched? Ridiculous? Perhaps, for someone living in Mayberry, theft isn't even on one's mental radar. I really, really do not live in Mayberry.)
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Treachery of images ...
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It's quite a good point about theft of an ereader, as far as I know the OEM's don't provide a choice of locking and unlocking tools for ereaders.
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The poster in question has repeatedly said (via translation) that they do not read or write in English, so "Google-Fu" is relevant in terms of the amount of salt with which their Google translated replies to posts they read via Google Translate must be taken. |
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#1358 |
Laura
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I don't worry about privacy with files that are for my own personal use only. Removing the DRM is enough. And I disagree with removing DRM from anything that is on loan.
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Since I don't have issues with reading library books within the 7 day loan period I use by default, I'm not very sympathetic to someone who wants to remove the DRM to avoid finishing the book within the loan period. I do have some sympathy for the Kindle owners who can not read an epub library loan since outside ~70% of American libraries, Kindle format library loans are non-existent. |
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This is partially my opinion and partially playing devil's advocate: If you believe it's OK to violate the terms of use, and possibly the DMCA to circumvent DRM on items for which you have a non-time-restricted license ("owned"), it seems hypocritical to have a problem with doing it on a time-restricted license ("loaned") as long as you don't keep the item longer than the time you're allowed. You say there's "no reason" but other than long term backup/archive, there are all exactly the same reasons: format shifting, space shifting, accessibility and all the other freedom-enhancing, fair-use, reasonable reasons we don't like DRM. ApK Last edited by ApK; 11-23-2021 at 10:39 AM. |
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Okay, this is a valid use case. But is it a compelling case? I don't have an objective answer to the question.
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Format shifting? The local libraries loan epub format ebooks. Oddly, my Kobo ereaders read that format so no need for format shifting. Accessibility? When I'm editing an ebook, I follow accessibility guidelines. They are not currently something that affects me but perhaps in the future. BTW, the relevant Canadian law allows for removing DRM for those who have perceptual issues. Archiving and backup? A very good reason, IMNSHO, for removing DRM. I have multiple ebooks that were orphaned when DRM servers were shut down. I didn't see the companies such as Microsoft offering to reimburse the money that I had spent on books that if I followed their rules, would no longer be accessible. Basically, I feel that library books are not mine. Perhaps a bit of hypocrisy since I remove DRM from books that I have purchased but a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. There is also the chance that after removing the DRM from a library loan, why not simply leave it in your library just in case you might want to re-read it later? A slippery slope that I don't want to start down. |
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Perhaps you should note this is a public discussion about publicly available tools and not just about you and your personal situation.
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Treachery of images ...
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Well I'm confused, google tells me DMCA is a US copyright law.
As a by the way, is this forum still hosted in the US, or has it been moved to another country? Last edited by Lynx-lynx; 11-23-2021 at 02:58 PM. |
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I've offered my opinion on my use of DRM removal tools which basically amounts to my purchases are fair game for DRM removal, library loans are not. Last edited by DNSB; 11-23-2021 at 03:00 PM. |
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