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Old 10-28-2021, 11:55 AM   #136
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My Sage is delayed. It was due for delivery today but the latest tracking says its delayed.
Mine is in transit from my local sorting office so hope it will be there when I get home from work (there is someone there to sign for it). Hope you get yours soon. Obviously very little or no advantage to me in preordering lol.

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Old 10-28-2021, 12:01 PM   #137
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looks promising...available and they are shipping to Austria
only the shipping costs are quite high.
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Old 10-28-2021, 01:12 PM   #138
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how could you order from the UK store? looks like they ship to the UK only...or did i miss something?
hope you dont mind me asking

thing is: i am based in Austria and i am still looking for a distributer who will ship to my country
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I live in the UK. It’s my store,
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Old 10-28-2021, 01:14 PM   #139
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Mine is in transit from my local sorting office so hope it will be there when I get home from work (there is someone there to sign for it). Hope you get yours soon. Obviously very little or no advantage to me in preordering lol.

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Mines at Dartford so maybe tomorrow with a bit of luck. Hope yours arrived today, you really should get it before me.
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Old 10-28-2021, 01:30 PM   #140
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I live in the UK. It’s my store,
i am so sorry, my bad. missread your post where you mentioned the netherlands and thought its the destination, but it was the originating country.
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Old 10-28-2021, 02:26 PM   #141
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Mines at Dartford so maybe tomorrow with a bit of luck. Hope yours arrived today, you really should get it before me.
Nope, no sign of it. The TNT Track and Trace still says Dartford - shipment in transit at 1452 today. I live very near Dartford and I thought this meant it was on a van in my local area after that time. But presumably not .

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Old 10-28-2021, 03:25 PM   #142
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I didn't get a Sage, but I've recently discovered that I vastly prefer 8 inch readers over anything smaller. I suspected it would be the case, but am still surprised at how much I prefer the bigger screen. I am guessing a Sage or Forma will be in my future. I prefer the form of the Aura One, but the lighting uniformity is a bit of a let down.

I wish there was more competition in the 8 inch reader segment.
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Old 10-28-2021, 04:07 PM   #143
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I didn't get a Sage, but I've recently discovered that I vastly prefer 8 inch readers over anything smaller. I suspected it would be the case, but am still surprised at how much I prefer the bigger screen. I am guessing a Sage or Forma will be in my future. I prefer the form of the Aura One, but the lighting uniformity is a bit of a let down.

I wish there was more competition in the 8 inch reader segment.
I just moved from the aura one to the sage, was never a huge fan of the side buttons but I'm warming up to them now. The sage is much more responsive, I'll say that!


Hope to see 3rd party sleep covers hit the market. Not sure I want to put the sage into my backpack.
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I just moved from the aura one to the sage, was never a huge fan of the side buttons but I'm warming up to them now. The sage is much more responsive, I'll say that!


Hope to see 3rd party sleep covers hit the market. Not sure I want to put the sage into my backpack.
The lighting uniformity of the Sage is the feature I find most compelling. My impression is that most people warm up to the buttons once they have them.
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Old 10-28-2021, 04:41 PM   #145
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My impression is that most people warm up to the buttons once they have them.
you should have been here 6 years ago when i was highly recommending them. back in those days Kobo e-reader's where button less and squarish less.

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Old 10-28-2021, 05:14 PM   #146
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you should have been here 6 years ago when i was highly recommending them. back in those days Kobo e-reader's where button less and squarish less.

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Buttons are the feature of e-readers I find most interesting because they seem to be a function of personal preference more than an obvious improvement like higher contrast or light temperature control.

Back when the touch sensitivity of screens wasn't what it is today, the logic of having buttons made more sense to me.

If you hold your e-reader in such a way that your thumb rests naturally in the range of the button, it makes sense why it would be less immersion-breaking to not have to extend your thumb to the screen to press.

I think some of the complaints I've read about the new placement of the buttons on the Sage/Libra2 are probably a result of them being less centered on resting thumb position.

I don't hold my device in such a way that would make buttons more economical, in terms of reducing the biomechanics of page turns, which may explain my agnosticism.
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Old 10-28-2021, 05:19 PM   #147
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Buttons are the feature of e-readers I find most interesting because they seem to be a function of personal preference more than an obvious improvement like higher contrast or light temperature control.

Back when the touch sensitivity of screens wasn't what it is today, the logic of having buttons made more sense to me.

If you hold your e-reader in such a way that your thumb rests naturally in the range of the button, it makes sense why it would be less immersion-breaking to not have to extend your thumb to the screen to press.

I think some of the complaints I've read about the new placement of the buttons on the Sage/Libra2 are probably a result of them being less centered on resting thumb position.

I don't hold my device in such a way that would make buttons more economical, in terms of reducing the biomechanics of page turns, which may explain my agnosticism.
It's not the ergonomics or economics in my case. My preference for buttons has only one reason: fingerprints! And yes, I can see them. I can see them perfectly. And they bother me.
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My preference for buttons has only one reason: fingerprints! And yes, I can see them. I can see them perfectly. And they bother me.
good point.

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The way I hold my Sage, my thumb rests left of the button, between them. I press the lower button with the lower part of my thumb without moving it, just flexing.
If I want to go back, then I move my thumb just a bit over the upper button.

It seems to work good for me so far.
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Buttons are the feature of e-readers I find most interesting because they seem to be a function of personal preference more than an obvious improvement like higher contrast or light temperature control.

Back when the touch sensitivity of screens wasn't what it is today, the logic of having buttons made more sense to me.

If you hold your e-reader in such a way that your thumb rests naturally in the range of the button, it makes sense why it would be less immersion-breaking to not have to extend your thumb to the screen to press.

I think some of the complaints I've read about the new placement of the buttons on the Sage/Libra2 are probably a result of them being less centered on resting thumb position.

I don't hold my device in such a way that would make buttons more economical, in terms of reducing the biomechanics of page turns, which may explain my agnosticism.
There is a reason I never saw mentioned about why buttons are important to me, and I miss them on the otherwise perfect for me Elipsa: I have some 5600 books on my readers, and over 100 collections. While navigating the collections is no problem with the right hand line, it definitely is with navigating the books: when clicking the bottom arrow to advance one page at a time, I keep opening the book next to it, and having to restore its state when it was "unread" or "read", just close it when it was "reading", but still annoying.
The buttons are well positioned for me on the Sage, but I think I can understand why there are none on the Elipsa: if centered they would be too high for the way I hold it, and if not they would only work for right hand or left hand reading, and I alternate hands for comfort, or depending on where I'm sitting.

Even if I did not have so many books, I do like to use buttons, and to have the choice of buttons/tapping/swiping, which gives me many possibilities to go back and forth while reading one handed when necessary.
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