The Lounge Covid Vaccination Discussion Thread - Page 10

astrangerhere · 08-09-2021, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by poohbear_nc

Well, Durham city and county has declared a State of Emergency and reinstated the mask mandate for ALL people inside buildings.

I believe the reason Chapel Hill is dragging its feet is 1 - the students are coming back this weekend and 2 - many of the town council and the mayor are up for reelection. So of course, no one wants to make anyone too upset.

poohbear_nc · 08-09-2021, 03:26 PM

It's very unreal to me now. We've (NC and the USA) got numbers (positivity rates, new infections, number hospitalized, etc.) steadily climbing, and reaching, levels not seen since the post Christmas holiday surge ... and yet we're sending unvaccinated children back to school, bringing students back to campus, reinstating mask mandates grudgingly city by city, and not requiring vaccination. What do people think is happening? Or going to happen? Or have people simply given up and are waiting to get sick, and get it over with?

Tarana · 08-10-2021, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by poohbear_nc

I think that my observations this morning at the grocery store support this - the seniors remain masked inside while the younger folk are now unmasked - employees and shoppers.

At my local grocery stores, I'd say older shoppers and about 40% of younger or store employees still masked (MN). We are mostly not going out or using sidewalk pickup. We are downsizing, so need less 'stuff'. I've been Craigslisting since Spring and people have been pretty good about either masking up or keeping distance - everything outside, so that helps. Had to stop temporarily due to my Mom's foot injury. I've had a lot fewer people buying since the heat wave though.

astrangerhere · 08-10-2021, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by astrangerhere

I believe the reason Chapel Hill is dragging its feet is 1 - the students are coming back this weekend and 2 - many of the town council and the mayor are up for reelection. So of course, no one wants to make anyone too upset.

UPDATE - Orange County is set to re-instate the mask requirement in all indoor public spaces tomorrow.

Sirtel · 08-11-2021, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by poohbear_nc

Or have people simply given up and are waiting to get sick, and get it over with?

I'd guess most people do exactly that. For them it's just something like the flu.

I go by people I know. My sister and her husband have had Covid twice. Yet they're both still unvaccinated and for the most part, just don't care. Aaand my sister is in the risk group. I've asked her more than once, why won't she get vaccinated. She has said that she might in the future, but for the most part, she's just indifferent.

Deskisamess · 08-11-2021, 01:14 PM

We have extended family living in Arizona, recently moved there from Chicago. This is my nephew and his wife, and 2 of their high school aged kids. His mother and her second husband are in the middle of a move out there as well.

Both of them are in the hospital, he with multiple other issues along with Covid, and if he makes it, will need full time care. (Most of this is not due to Covid) She is in another hospital in Chicago, in very poor shape. She is expected to make it, but will be on the mend for a long time. She is 71, he is 83. Neither were vaccinated.

The nephew and his wife, and 2 of their 3 kids got Covid, none vaccinated. Her parents back in Chicago both have it, not vaccinated, and are doing poorly.

It is so frustrating that educated people are so lead by what they read on social media.

Sirtel · 08-11-2021, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Deskisamess

It is so frustrating that educated people are so lead by what they read on social media.

Yeah, exactly. My sister, her husband and my nieces all have college degrees and none of them is vaccinated. I'm the only vaccinated person in my immediate family and also the least educated, with only unfinished high school under my belt.

I'm not sure about my nieces, but my sister is certainly unvaccinated because of Facebook. She belongs to a few groups there and her opinions are strongly colored by them. They're not quite antivaxxers or conspiracy theorists, but often come close.

DNSB · 08-11-2021, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Deskisamess

It is so frustrating that educated people are so lead by what they read on social media.

I've known far too many "educated" people for whom critical thinking is a foreign concept. For whom separating the chaff from the wheat on social media is a lost art.

SteveEisenberg · 08-11-2021, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirtel

Yeah, exactly. My sister, her husband and my nieces all have college degrees and none of them is vaccinated. I'm the only vaccinated person in my immediate family and also the least educated, with only unfinished high school under my belt.

Yea, but your being here means you read books.

My wife did not go to college but is a general reader, including serious biographies. This makes her much better educated than the average American college graduate.

I’m pro-liberal arts education. And I’m pro-statistics education. I’m in semi-awe of the guy I know who went here. But number of years educated does not mean anything by itself.

Deskisamess · 08-11-2021, 07:35 PM

I have never gone to college. I got married at barely 18, college was never brought up as an option. But I don't consider myself uneducated.

binaryhermit · 08-11-2021, 08:35 PM

You're probably not educated in a way that would land you a cushy white collar job.

But you are educated in a way that gives you a freaking clue.

Given what I've seen in my retail job, I'm pretty sure that people with the first quite frequently don't have the second yet still end up running companies.

astrangerhere · 08-12-2021, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by binaryhermit

You're probably not educated in a way that would land you a cushy white collar job.

But you are educated in a way that gives you a freaking clue.

Given what I've seen in my retail job, I'm pretty sure that people with the first quite frequently don't have the second yet still end up running companies.

I have an undergraduate degree and a doctorate. I've been a professor and am currently managing a law office of 12 attorneys. Some of the most "eDuCATed" people I know are absolute morons. One of them has had covid, gave it to her two children and is still salty at being asked to wear a mask again.

Smartest women in my office are the two single moms with high school educations.

binaryhermit · 08-12-2021, 10:29 AM

Slightly offtopic, but what does someone with no college qualify to do at a law office?

astrangerhere · 08-12-2021, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by binaryhermit

Slightly offtopic, but what does someone with no college qualify to do at a law office?

Administrative work.

cromag · 08-13-2021, 01:53 AM

Not precisely on topic, but related:

I was at the doctor's office today. No big deal, just checking on my progress with a new prescription, etc. While I was there -- since I am of a certain age and had chickenpox as a kid -- I got my first shingles vaccine. I'm overdue, but it was in short supply and the doctor finally got some in.

Without exaggeration, the moment the needle entered my arm the doctor's cell phone rang.

I immediately asked, "Are you sure that was the shingles vaccine, doc? I thought it was the COVID vaccine that was 5G-enabled."

The doctor laughed. She knows me.

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08-09-2021, 03:26 PM	#137
poohbear_nc Bah! Humbug! Posts: 64,228 Karma: 135242149 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Durham, NC Device: Every Kindle Ever Made & To Be Made!	It's very unreal to me now. We've (NC and the USA) got numbers (positivity rates, new infections, number hospitalized, etc.) steadily climbing, and reaching, levels not seen since the post Christmas holiday surge ... and yet we're sending unvaccinated children back to school, bringing students back to campus, reinstating mask mandates grudgingly city by city, and not requiring vaccination. What do people think is happening? Or going to happen? Or have people simply given up and are waiting to get sick, and get it over with?

08-11-2021, 01:14 PM	#141
Deskisamess Wizard Posts: 2,777 Karma: 45827761 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Ohio Device: iPhone 13 Pro, iPad mini, iPad Pro 12.9",Paperwhite 6.8", Scribe 2022	We have extended family living in Arizona, recently moved there from Chicago. This is my nephew and his wife, and 2 of their high school aged kids. His mother and her second husband are in the middle of a move out there as well. Both of them are in the hospital, he with multiple other issues along with Covid, and if he makes it, will need full time care. (Most of this is not due to Covid) She is in another hospital in Chicago, in very poor shape. She is expected to make it, but will be on the mend for a long time. She is 71, he is 83. Neither were vaccinated. The nephew and his wife, and 2 of their 3 kids got Covid, none vaccinated. Her parents back in Chicago both have it, not vaccinated, and are doing poorly. It is so frustrating that educated people are so lead by what they read on social media.

08-11-2021, 07:35 PM	#145
Deskisamess Wizard Posts: 2,777 Karma: 45827761 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Ohio Device: iPhone 13 Pro, iPad mini, iPad Pro 12.9",Paperwhite 6.8", Scribe 2022	I have never gone to college. I got married at barely 18, college was never brought up as an option. But I don't consider myself uneducated.

08-11-2021, 08:35 PM	#146
binaryhermit Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,732 Karma: 20469902 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Lockport, IL Device: Kindle PW4, Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition	You're probably not educated in a way that would land you a cushy white collar job. But you are educated in a way that gives you a freaking clue. Given what I've seen in my retail job, I'm pretty sure that people with the first quite frequently don't have the second yet still end up running companies.

08-12-2021, 10:29 AM	#148
binaryhermit Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,732 Karma: 20469902 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Lockport, IL Device: Kindle PW4, Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition	Slightly offtopic, but what does someone with no college qualify to do at a law office?

08-13-2021, 01:53 AM	#150
cromag Surfin the alpha waves ~~ Posts: 26,765 Karma: 459765791 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: New Jersey Device: Jetbook Lite & Mini, Nook STR, Kobo, Hanvon N516, Kindle 2, Androids	Not precisely on topic, but related: I was at the doctor's office today. No big deal, just checking on my progress with a new prescription, etc. While I was there -- since I am of a certain age and had chickenpox as a kid -- I got my first shingles vaccine. I'm overdue, but it was in short supply and the doctor finally got some in. Without exaggeration, the moment the needle entered my arm the doctor's cell phone rang. I immediately asked, "Are you sure that was the shingles vaccine, doc? I thought it was the COVID vaccine that was 5G-enabled." The doctor laughed. She knows me.