Expansion of the Lounge - your vote counts (poll) - Page 12

tompe · 03-31-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

If a thread I started was going off topic - and it bothered me that it was - then I would have no qualms about asking politely for it to be kept on topic, irregardless of who had sent it off topic. Why on earth would it be a problem? I've seen enough of the people here to suspect that most would respond to a polite request.

(I think that's the key, btw - asking politely; rather than demanding curtly as I've seen once or twice.)

This is not possible since it assumed you continously read MobileRead. If you read once a day and then have 100 off topic posts then the you cannot split the thread to get it back on topic.

tompe · 03-31-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ea

I didn't know this was possible - and I'm definitely not interested in the possibility of doing it - but I don't understand why it should be a problem, since, I assume, the hypothetical people who'd do this would probably not be interested in the Lounge anyway?

I am interested in reading and sometimes participating in threads in the lounge. But I want to read other threads first. And since I read by searching the only way I can prioritize is to exclude the lounge (which I unfortunately have done recently for user interface reasons). So for the search reason I voted for a separate forum. Maybe I should add a button only searching the lounge also.

ProfJulie · 03-31-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ea

I honestly don't understand it; it's not as if anyone wanted to get rid of the lounge or change it. What I got from the other thread, was some people wanted a place where the general tone were more focused on serious discussions than generally for the Lounge. For whatever reason people may have, not everyone is happy with that level of social banter, and I think that is okay. I don't understand why people should feel resentful (that is the feeling I get from the recent discussion). Seriousy, honestly, I'm feeling bewildered why it should be a problem?

Why should it be? You'd be more than welcome to join in, if you like

The new section should just be a place with a different tone than the Lounge - not better, not worse. Just different

My sentiments exactly...

pshrynk · 03-31-2009, 02:11 PM

This discussion is heading in a direction that Alex was fearful might happen and that is "Us vs Them" in trying to make a decision. After a lot of discussion amongst the moderators, we decided to have this poll and get the feel of the members.

1) It is not us vs them, it is us and how we can be sensitive to all members and their desires.

2) It is not silly versus serious, it is about having places that we can do things in the forum that we like to do and having a convenient way to sort them all out.

3) There isn't going to be any moderation of threads to make sure they are either silly or serious. That's up to the members to police for themselves. The moderators are going to be watchful of disrespect and flaming that is out of hand and will step in only in extremely severe and blatant cricumstances. Like they always have.

Please try to keep in mind that this is about opening up possibilities and expanding opportunities, rather than being about anger.

Dr. Drib · 03-31-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pshrynk

This discussion is heading in a direction that Alex was fearful might happen and that is "Us vs Them" in trying to make a decision. After a lot of discussion amongst the moderators, we decided to have this poll and get the feel of the members.

1) It is not us vs them, it is us and how we can be sensitive to all members and their desires.

2) It is not silly versus serious, it is about having places that we can do things in the forum that we like to do and having a convenient way to sort them all out.

3) There isn't going to be any moderation of threads to make sure they are either silly or serious. That's up to the members to police for themselves. The moderators are going to be watchful of disrespect and flaming that is out of hand and will step in only in extremely severe and blatant cricumstances. Like they always have.

Please try to keep in mind that this is about opening up possibilities and expanding opportunities, rather than being about anger.

Beautifully said, pshrynk.

Thank you.

Don

Moejoe · 03-31-2009, 04:56 PM

I thought the Big Red H was for Hunk? Damn, lied to again

Daithi · 03-31-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

Umm, singling out DGma seems a little uncalled for?

If a thread I started was going off topic - and it bothered me that it was - then I would have no qualms about asking politely for it to be kept on topic, irregardless of who had sent it off topic. Why on earth would it be a problem? I've seen enough of the people here to suspect that most would respond to a polite request.

(I think that's the key, btw - asking politely; rather than demanding curtly as I've seen once or twice.)

No offense intended. I'm just saying I wouldn't mess with DG.

desertgrandma · 03-31-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Daithi

No offense intended. I'm just saying I wouldn't mess with DG.

I leave for a few hours and look what happens.

What the heck have I ever done to make people think I'm going to hit them with a stick??? Oh. Wait. Never mind.

Let me repeat for the umpteenth time. If I should ever hijack a thread, and someone really wanted to keep it on track, all it takes is a single request. I have broad shoulders and can take a simple smack on the hand.

I"m sure that would go for everyone on this board, except for trolls, and those can be dealt with by a mod.

Okay, have your serious discussions, describe the threads however you want. The decision has been made, and all thats left is the implementation.

Now, I can't wait to see some of these topics.

desertgrandma · 03-31-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tompe

This is not possible since it assumed you continously read MobileRead. If you read once a day and then have 100 off topic posts then the you cannot split the thread to get it back on topic.

Sure it is. If a topic isn't allowed to get off topic to begin with........that is, the first time someone posted 'off topic' and it was asked that people stay "on topic" the topic would stay "on topic" thruout.......(honest, that made sense in my head)

ShortNCuddlyAm · 03-31-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tompe

This is not possible since it assumed you continously read MobileRead. If you read once a day and then have 100 off topic posts then the you cannot split the thread to get it back on topic.

I could still ask for it to go back on topic. It might be harder for that to be achieved, admittedly, but one could still ask

desertgrandma · 03-31-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wetdogeared

You're absolutely right! And my previous post here should have been more general in asking all participants to please keep on topic and avoid the chit-chat. Sorry DGma, I shouldn't have phrased it that way.

And I'm sorry if I've made any comments that are off topic to this discussion.

WDE.

There are no need for any apologies. No offense was taken. Big Hug to you!

desertgrandma · 03-31-2009, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

Umm, singling out DGma seems a little uncalled for?

If a thread I started was going off topic - and it bothered me that it was - then I would have no qualms about asking politely for it to be kept on topic, irregardless of who had sent it off topic. Why on earth would it be a problem? I've seen enough of the people here to suspect that most would respond to a polite request.

(I think that's the key, btw - asking politely; rather than demanding curtly as I've seen once or twice.)

Thank you, shorty, for defending me. I know WDE didn't mean it personally, and yes, I can't figure out why the 'request' mode isn't being seriously considered.

However, the deed is done, as they say, and we all need to move on and not waste any more time arguing. Lets just look forward to some of these conversations that are sure to evolve.......

PhishStyx · 03-31-2009, 10:38 PM

I'd like to offer that I like the idea of Option #1. Adding a forum for somewhat more serious stuff seems like a very useful notion.

Alexander Turcic · 04-01-2009, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

However, the deed is done, as they say, and we all need to move on and not waste any more time arguing.

I couldn't agree more.

The poll has ended. Of those who voted, almost 75% were in favor of adding a new forum while leaving the lounge intact as it is.

We will work on adding the new forum today.

Thanks again everyone for participating in the poll. Your feedback is what matters most to us!

YGG- · 04-01-2009, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

Thank you, shorty, for defending me. I know WDE didn't mean it personally, and yes, I can't figure out why the 'request' mode isn't being seriously considered.

However, the deed is done, as they say, and we all need to move on and not waste any more time arguing. Lets just look forward to some of these conversations that are sure to evolve.......

And, DG, I do appreciate your contributions to this forum (silly or not).

View Poll Results: How to proceed with serious off-topic discussions
Add a new section "Salon" under Miscellaneous	89	80.91%
Add a new thread prefix "Keep it Sensible" to the Lounge	21	19.09%
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03-31-2009, 02:11 PM	#169
pshrynk Beepbeep n beebeep, yeah! Posts: 11,726 Karma: 8255450 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin, aka America's IceBox Device: iThingie, KmkII, I miss Zelda!	This discussion is heading in a direction that Alex was fearful might happen and that is "Us vs Them" in trying to make a decision. After a lot of discussion amongst the moderators, we decided to have this poll and get the feel of the members. 1) It is not us vs them, it is us and how we can be sensitive to all members and their desires. 2) It is not silly versus serious, it is about having places that we can do things in the forum that we like to do and having a convenient way to sort them all out. 3) There isn't going to be any moderation of threads to make sure they are either silly or serious. That's up to the members to police for themselves. The moderators are going to be watchful of disrespect and flaming that is out of hand and will step in only in extremely severe and blatant cricumstances. Like they always have. Please try to keep in mind that this is about opening up possibilities and expanding opportunities, rather than being about anger.

03-31-2009, 04:56 PM	#171
Moejoe Banned Posts: 5,100 Karma: 72193 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South of the Border Device: Coffin	I thought the Big Red H was for Hunk? Damn, lied to again

03-31-2009, 10:38 PM	#178
PhishStyx The me that I am Posts: 413 Karma: 1078 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: In my house! Duh! Device: Kindle 1 & DR 1000s	I'd like to offer that I like the idea of Option #1. Adding a forum for somewhat more serious stuff seems like a very useful notion.