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Old 05-16-2021, 09:21 AM   #46
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Yes, it's true, but I have to be honest, I would never have put my collection by Walt Disney with Dostoevskij in the same archive
You don't have to, but you don't have to create 10 different libraries either. In order to search across your whole library, it must be physically in one place. You can separate it with virtual libraries. That still enables you to search all over.

The fact is, Calibre filesystem is not meant to be used by the user and that's not going to change. Calibre is meant to be used via its interface. So if you want to use the full capabilities of Calibre, forget file-and-folder-based thinking. File and folder operations are not compatible with Calibre.
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Old 05-16-2021, 09:34 AM   #47
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You can do 2 things, accept that there is someone who detects problems that you do not detect and, not for this reason exclude them from the lucky users of Caliber ... or, better, avoid answering me if you think my criticisms are stupid or useless. I ask for help and discussion with kind and helpful people (and patients) and I know that not everyone has these characteristics
The problem is that you want to control the Calibre filesystem. That will never be possible and we cannot help you with that. You can do 2 things too, either use Calibre via its graphical interface or move to another program. The Calibre filesystem is not going to change. The developer has said it many times.
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Old 05-16-2021, 10:07 AM   #48
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The problem is that you want to control the Calibre filesystem. That will never be possible and we cannot help you with that. You can do 2 things too, either use Calibre via its graphical interface or move to another program. The Calibre filesystem is not going to change. The developer has said it many times.
Sorry but who forces you to answer me? I don't want to change anything, we confront each other and everyone defends their opinions. If you find me boring, why do you answer me? Forget it and live happy

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If the author said it won't change, obviously I'm not the only crazy person pointing this out. The thing that seems strange to me is that I am the only one who finds it normal that a program, in 2021, still has features that date back to MS-DOS, can this be said or do I offend someone?
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Old 05-16-2021, 10:10 AM   #49
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You don't have to, but you don't have to create 10 different libraries either. In order to search across your whole library, it must be physically in one place. You can separate it with virtual libraries. That still enables you to search all over.

The fact is, Calibre filesystem is not meant to be used by the user and that's not going to change. Calibre is meant to be used via its interface. So if you want to use the full capabilities of Calibre, forget file-and-folder-based thinking. File and folder operations are not compatible with Calibre.
yes but think how boring if we were all here saying the exact same things. Who could you write a post like this to?
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Sorry but who forces you to answer me? I don't want to change anything, we confront each other and everyone defends their opinions. If you find me boring, why do you answer me? Forget it and live happy

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If the author said it won't change, obviously I'm not the only crazy person pointing this out. The thing that seems strange to me is that I am the only one who finds it normal that a program, in 2021, still has features that date back to MS-DOS, can this be said or do I offend someone?
I don't find you boring nor do I answer you just to be confrontational. No, of course you're not the only person to want what you want. There have been many. But the reality is, you can accept the limitations of Calibre in order to use its many benefits, or you can continue to blame its filesystem, which unfortunately gets you nothing.

It doesn't matter how many times you write that you want longer file names. The developer has decided he won't change it, so we cannot answer you any differently than we already have. No one can tell you "this is how you change the naming of the library files". The option doesn't exist.
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Old 05-16-2021, 10:38 AM   #51
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I don't find you boring nor do I answer you just to be confrontational. No, of course you're not the only person to want what you want. There have been many. But the reality is, you can accept the limitations of Calibre in order to use its many benefits, or you can continue to blame its filesystem, which unfortunately gets you nothing.

It doesn't matter how many times you write that you want longer file names. The developer has decided he won't change it, so we cannot answer you any differently than we already have. No one can tell you "this is how you change the naming of the library files". The option doesn't exist.
Sorry but not having truncated names forces you to lose other features

The author has the right to do whatever he wants and you have the right to be fed up with repeating the same things for years and I have the right to write that it is absurd for me to have names truncated in 2021. And I know perfectly well that nothing will change, in fact now I'm trying, with the help of the other guys, to find an alternative way to search for books with the help of columns or other
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Old 05-16-2021, 03:03 PM   #52
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but what is the answer? I have pointed out some limitations of a program that I find fantastic and you, instead of advising me how to solve my problems, do you recommend me to change the program? It's like saying you have problems with women and I advise you to become homosexual
Sorry but as far as I can tell, people have been trying to tell you how to use calibre to get the results you want. Your response is to add more options none of which your directory structure/searching with Everything is going to offer unless you are planning on not reading the ebooks but adding them to an endlessly complex directory structure complete with symlinks. Been there, done that and happy not to be doing it anymore.

At other times, I wonder if you have actually tried to use calibre. Things like missing the Authors item in the Tab browser. Things like the advanced search capabilities. Even the ability to add custom columns, the ability to search in the database which is a lot faster than searching on a file system.

To use your comparison, I would say the advice you are receiving is more on the lines of how to satisfy your sexual partner and less suggesting you switch teams.

OTOH, your attitude seems to be that Kovid Goyal should make his support of calibre even more complex for no visible gain. Again, calibre is a database driven program and not a file system driven program.

At this point, your continued whinging about what will not be changed is accomplishing nothing while being annoying .

Your reasons for wanting to use multiple physical libraries instead of a main library with virtual libraries do not make much sense, IMHO. All it seems to show is a lack of desire or ability to change what you have done in the past. Are you still running Windows 3.1?
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Sorry but as far as I can tell, people have been trying to tell you how to use calibre to get the results you want. Your response is to add more options none of which your directory structure/searching with Everything is going to offer unless you are planning on not reading the ebooks but adding them to an endlessly complex directory structure complete with symlinks. Been there, done that and happy not to be doing it anymore.

At other times, I wonder if you have actually tried to use calibre. Things like missing the Authors item in the Tab browser. Things like the advanced search capabilities. Even the ability to add custom columns, the ability to search in the database which is a lot faster than searching on a file system.

To use your comparison, I would say the advice you are receiving is more on the lines of how to satisfy your sexual partner and less suggesting you switch teams.

OTOH, your attitude seems to be that Kovid Goyal should make his support of calibre even more complex for no visible gain. Again, calibre is a database driven program and not a file system driven program.

At this point, your continued whinging about what will not be changed is accomplishing nothing while being annoying .

Your reasons for wanting to use multiple physical libraries instead of a main library with virtual libraries do not make much sense, IMHO. All it seems to show is a lack of desire or ability to change what you have done in the past. Are you still running Windows 3.1?
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Sorry but as far as I can tell, people have been trying to tell you how to use calibre to get the results you want.
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I've lost track as to whether or not these links has been posted yet.

See https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=119175 and https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq...lder-structure

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… but adding them to an endlessly complex directory structure complete with symlinks. Been there, done that and happy not to be doing it anymore…
And here I was thinking I was the only one daft enough to have been down that rabbit warren, we must have taken a different fork in the protocol tunnels

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@Lauraq - have you watched the calibre videos, I loathe most instructional videos; but when I first installed calibre I found them very useful. Watch a segment, switch to calibre with a test library and try the feature - if you don't get it, repeat until you do…

And here's an experiment you can try, it demonstrates that the 'driver' of calibre is its database, not the file system.

Create a new library (BRTest) and add some books to it, close calibre, open the BRTest folder and delete the author and book title folders, do NOT delete the metadata.db file

Start calibre. The only thing that should be immediately obvious is the absence of cover images, but you should be able to search, sort, edit metadata etc, what you won't be able to do are operations that require the format files - such as convert, view, send to device etc.

When your done, switch to another library and use Library icon->Remove library->BRTest to remove the library from calibre's settings, you'll have to delete the BRTest folder using your file manager.
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Damn, and I was really enjoying all her whining. Haven't had this much entertainment in ages.
I understand you ... I also have a lot of fun when I see men without personalities who come forward when an argument is over
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I've lost track as to whether or not these links has been posted yet.

See https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=119175 and https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq...lder-structure
The first link to Want to change folder structure or file names in the Calibre library? was posted in the second message in this thread. After that, the discussion went downhill.
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you should have the humility and the intelligence to understand that if I have been here for days talking to you it is not for lack of willingness to learn but only because I don't understand, not speaking your language, what you would like me to do. But these are such trivial things to understand that if you haven't come up with them yourself, it's hard to understand now
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you should have the humility and the intelligence to understand that if I have been here for days talking to you it is not for lack of willingness to learn but only because I don't understand, not speaking your language, what you would like me to do. But these are such trivial things to understand that if you haven't come up with them yourself, it's hard to understand now
It's been said several times that to be able to search for a book across your entire library, it must be physically in one place. I.e. one library, not many separate ones. You can separate it virtually.

As to the crash you're experiencing, a poster asked for details. You have not provided them so far. How many ebooks? What computer with how much memory? Any error message before the crash?
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