wrong epub name :(

[Lauraq]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

As we have all tried to explain - the names of folders and files within the library are arbitrary, they are not the basis of searching or ordering.

It is what it is, a black box - and it isn't going to change.

BR

I was wondering what thought prompted the Calibre's author to name the books by putting the author's name after the title. Then it is obvious that he can do what he wants and will have my infinite thanks but I still do not understand this choice, and this without absolutely wanting to offend anyone

[jhowell]

Originally Posted by Lauraq

I was wondering what thought prompted the Calibre's author to name the books by putting the author's name after the title. Then it is obvious that he can do what he wants and will have my infinite thanks but I still do not understand this choice, and this without absolutely wanting to offend anyone

The current library structure is helpful if you should need to locate a book file without using calibre. Most file systems sort alphabetically. First find the author folder by name then find the book folder within that by title.

Having the author name as part of the file name is actually redundant since the folder name provides that, but it is useful if you need to copy the file out of calibre's library structure. (Added: Actually both are redundant at that point, so I guess the order in the name really doesn't matter.)

It seems like a very reasonable and well thought out choice to me.

[Lauraq]

Originally Posted by jhowell

The current library structure is helpful if you should need to locate a book file without using calibre. Most file systems sort alphabetically. First find the author folder by name then find the book folder within that by title.

Having the author name as part of the file name is actually redundant since the folder name provides that, but it is useful if you need to copy the file out of calibre's library structure. (Added: Actually both are redundant at that point, so I guess the order in the name really doesn't matter.)

It seems like a very reasonable and well thought out choice to me.

is absurd. Because if I, with any Research program, ask to show me the books present and remember, for example, only that she is a woman or that the author's name begins with "K", how can I find it? If the books were shown in author - title order, the operation would be feasible, in the opposite case almost impossible.

But then, did you organize the songs by title - author or the opposite?

It seems to me that you are defending an illogical choice, I would not want there to be rules that make you risk the BAN if you write things against the author of Caliber

[Lauraq]

and, it's not like there are a thousand operating systems and therefore the truncated name is justified. There are 3 or 4 and a couple used by 99.9% of people. And there are a ton of programs that are produced in 2 versions to ensure compatibility with all OSes. So, excuse me, but I find this too absurd. And I say this by enormously thanking the author of Caliber for this fantastic program

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Lauraq

is absurd. Because if I, with any Research program, ask to show me the books present and remember, for example, only that she is a woman or that the author's name begins with "K", how can I find it? If the books were shown in author - title order, the operation would be feasible, in the opposite case almost impossible.

Since you apparently have the books in a calibre library, you might want to consider using calibre to do the searching. And yes, I have one friend whom is sufficiently anal about supporting female authors that she has added columns for the author gender/race/etc. Personally, I don't care if the author is black, white, Asian, male, female, bisexual, transgendered, etc. as long as the story can capture my attention.

You did notice that calibre has a pretty decent search engine? You have checked out the capabilities of advanced search?

Originally Posted by Lauraq

But then, did you organize the songs by title - author or the opposite?

My calibre music library has the song titles (title field), album names (uses series with the track # as the series index), group/performer names (author field), etc. Searching for a song by say, David Blue or a song named Grand Hotel or an album named Aliens Ate My Buick or, using some of my custom columns had Jeff Porcaro playing an instrument or searching for all marked as folk genre is easy peasy.

Originally Posted by Lauraq

It seems to me that you are defending an illogical choice, I would not want there to be rules that make you risk the BAN if you write things against the author of Caliber

I doubt I would be banned for disagreeing with Kovid's design choices. Thanks to Kovid making calibre open source, I have the choice to fork calibre. Perhaps to create a version that allows 1023 characters file names and 16,384 path lengths. That that version of calibre would not be useful on any system that is not running Linux with a customized file system (quite a few Linux file systems are capable of very long path lengths but cap them at 4096). My library would not be transferable to a different OS/file system but life is tough.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Lauraq

and, it's not like there are a thousand operating systems and therefore the truncated name is justified. There are 3 or 4 and a couple used by 99.9% of people. And there are a ton of programs that are produced in 2 versions to ensure compatibility with all OSes. So, excuse me, but I find this too absurd. And I say this by enormously thanking the author of Caliber for this fantastic program

Umm... Windows and Mac OSX are pretty consistent though FAT32, NTFS, APFS, HFS+, etc. do have some quirks such as case sensitivity. Then we have Linux where the number of file systems in use make for some fun. Ext3, ext4, btfrs, jfs, zfs, ReiserFS and xfs just to name some file systems that I have run into over the years This is without getting into the union file systems and LVM for when you want to have real "fun".

[BetterRed]

@Lauraq, you might prefer using calibre's Command Line Interface - it provides access to many calibre features such as conversion, editing, viewing, metadata embedding etc without the need for a calibre library. Some of the user contributed plugins can also be used from the command line.

Or, because calibre is Open Source software you can create your own fork ==>> Setting up a calibre development environment

BR

[Capricorn]

Originally Posted by Lauraq

is absurd. Because if I, with any Research program, ask to show me the books present and remember, for example, only that she is a woman or that the author's name begins with "K", how can I find it? If the books were shown in author - title order, the operation would be feasible, in the opposite case almost impossible.

But then, did you organize the songs by title - author or the opposite?

It seems to me that you are defending an illogical choice, I would not want there to be rules that make you risk the BAN if you write things against the author of Caliber

I don't get it. The search functionality of Calibre is VERY powerful to try to find such elements like you describe above. On top of that, by using the Quality check plugin, I can search inside epubs. So, if I do not know the author anymore, I can still search on the content of my epubs. The chances of finding the correct book are much higher than when you want to just use the file system.
And when you put the calibre folder in the windows search index, you can still search on anything you like, especially using the advanced windows search syntax (eg. https://www.howtogeek.com/school/learning-windows-search/lesson1/ .
If you install the epub ifilter for the windows search index from zabkat.com (https://www.zabkat.com/blog/epub-ifi...ows-search.htm), you can use the windows search to search for the contents of your epubs.
So, there are plenty of possibilities to search that are far more powerful than what you want to do.

[Lauraq]

On sex: it was just in case you remember that the author is female, I don't understand the absurdity of your reasoning

About the music: No, I meant the name of the file, not the program that organizes them for you. All my life I have always seen songs renamed to
Author - Title or Author - Album title - title

but maybe i'm weird me and everyone I know

On the ban: it was a joke

On Windows and Mac: I admit my total ignorance on the subject, I just pointed out that Caliber's potential problems should also have them, for example, Photoshop ... but they are probably different and therefore you are right. I didn't think it was so difficult to differentiate names


BetterRed: thanks but I am already struggling with the graphical interface one

Capricorn:
well .... if I remember part of the title and that part of the title has been truncated, I will never find it. I say this because I find it much more comfortable, in research, to use a program called "Everything". Caliber I find it messed up. In Caliber I have created many archives, for example

Books about music
Classic Books
Contemporary books
Poetry

and more.

I often find myself having to open multiple archives to find the book I'm looking for, with Everything I find it in 1 second. But, even then, I'll be crazy (that's ironic)


Anyhow
Thanks for the answers, please consider that my English is bad and I use Google translate.
Unfortunately I am not able to answer you because I do not have your technical competence, I have only given my opinion, probably wrong.
Thanks again and bye

[Sirtel]

You don't have to create multiple separate libraries. As you said, that makes searching for a book very difficult.

You can use virtual libraries, tags, custom columns to categorize your books. This way you can still search across your whole library.

[ownedbycats]

Originally Posted by DNSB

Umm... Windows and Mac OSX are pretty consistent though FAT32, NTFS, APFS, HFS+, etc. do have some quirks such as case sensitivity. Then we have Linux where the number of file systems in use make for some fun. Ext3, ext4, btfrs, jfs, zfs, ReiserFS and xfs just to name some file systems that I have run into over the years This is without getting into the union file systems and LVM for when you want to have real "fun".

I remember case-sensitivity being a bit of a problem when people (I think mostly the Archive Team) was trying to scrape GeoCities before Yahoo killed it off. If I remember correctly, Geocities was run off Apache but used a combination of symlinks and possibly mod_speling to make it act case-insensitive. This resulted in a lot of weirdness and the dump isn't really usable on Windows.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by Lauraq

On sex: it was just in case you remember that the author is female, I don't understand the absurdity of your reasoning

I'm tempted to ask how your current search using "Everything" for instance would be able to find female authors given that Everything searches on file name. Are you entering the author gender in the file name? As I mentioned, one friend of mine does use custom columns for that type of information in calibre and, again as already mentioned, I find the gender/ethnicity/etc. of the author to be irrelevant. Either they wrote a story that I want to read or they don't. A simple binary solution.

Originally Posted by Lauraq

About the music: No, I meant the name of the file, not the program that organizes them for you. All my life I have always seen songs renamed to
Author - Title or Author - Album title - title

but maybe i'm weird me and everyone I know

And I don't care what the file name is. I can find the song and play it using calibre search without having to think about the file name. If I want to save a set of music files outside of the calibre library, I use a template that generates the file names.

Originally Posted by Lauraq

On Windows and Mac: I admit my total ignorance on the subject, I just pointed out that Caliber's potential problems should also have them, for example, Photoshop ... but they are probably different and therefore you are right. I didn't think it was so difficult to differentiate names

I've seen issues with Adobe products, filenames and paths. In most cases due to case sensitivity. Depending on how you configure your Mac file system, you can enable or disable case sensitivity. So on one Mac, Picture.psd is considered the same file as picture.psd while on another Mac, they are considered as different files.

Originally Posted by Lauraq

well .... if I remember part of the title and that part of the title has been truncated, I will never find it. I say this because I find it much more comfortable, in research, to use a program called "Everything". Caliber I find it messed up. In Caliber I have created many archives, for example

Books about music
Classic Books
Contemporary books
Poetry

and more.

I often find myself having to open multiple archives to find the book I'm looking for, with Everything I find it in 1 second. But, even then, I'll be crazy (that's ironic)

For books I have two libraries. Intake where books get imported, updated, edited, etc. and Main where the books get moved after the import workflow has been completed. Within Main, I use virtual libraries to save me having to have multiple libraries. Think of a virtual library as a saved search that defines a sublibrary. I.e., instead of having a library for computer related books, I have a virtual library for them.

[Lauraq]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

You don't have to create multiple separate libraries. As you said, that makes searching for a book very difficult.

You can use virtual libraries, tags, custom columns to categorize your books. This way you can still search across your whole library.

For me it is impossible, there are too many fields to set and they do not fit in the screen.
And when I tried to put all the books in the same archive my PC crashed because I have too many

for this reason I need to use Everything and I don't think I'm the only one with these problems

[Lauraq]

x DNSB:

for woman: Simple, I sort the authors by name and immediately identify the names of the women present.


Adobe problem: problems are always there with all programs, Caliber has solved the underlying problem by sending us back to DOS


I didn't understand how you do it, I have many fields to add:

year of birth author
author
title
series
year of publication
tag
dimension
extension

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Lauraq

x DNSB:

for woman: Simple, I sort the authors by name and immediately identify the names of the women present.


Adobe problem: problems are always there with all programs, Caliber has solved the underlying problem by sending us back to DOS


I didn't understand how you do it, I have many fields to add:

year of birth author
author
title
series
year of publication
tag
dimension
extension

I have more custom fields than you do. But you don't create a virtual library based on all of them, but only on those fields or search criteria you want to. I suggest you read about virtual libraries in the Calibre manual:
https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/vir...tual-libraries

As to your PC crashing, frankly I have no idea what could cause that. I have well over 20 000 ebooks all in one library and it has never crashed, not on any of the computers I have used.