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Old 05-12-2021, 11:28 AM   #16
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I have a used Tolino Shine 2 that I bought cheap on ebay (like $35 cheap!). It has the go-to-page-number feature.

I mostly read library books and don't use Calibre so I can't comment as to collections, marking large numbers of books read/unread, etc.

Are there any readers that actually allow turning touch off like the OP wants?

I'd think pretty much any reader would allow changing fonts, searching for text, and use of USB connection.
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Old 05-12-2021, 06:02 PM   #17
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I really like the sony prs-t1. I have a t3 that I don't like as they seem to have taken all the good features away. If SONY still sold the PRS-T1 i but another. I've been getting by using ebay to buy replacement units in advance. ...
I know it's not much of an upgrade, but the PRS-T2's firmware seems to be more solid to me (and they're newer than the T1). Or maybe you've already worked out the "kinks" in your T1s.

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Old 05-12-2021, 06:05 PM   #18
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This is one of my most-missed features. Close only counts in horseshoes, as they say, and the larger the text and the smaller the screen the more inadequate the scrollbar is as a substitute.
Agreed. The Nooks, PocketBooks, Sonys and Tolinos can all go directly to the page number. I don't quite understand why Kobo doesn't have that feature.
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Old 05-12-2021, 06:08 PM   #19
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I think it would be good to have both the scroll bar and to be able to type in a page number. That way we'd have the best of both depending what works best.
I think (basically) everyone but Kobo already has both.
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Old 05-12-2021, 06:16 PM   #20
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Why? Page numbers in ebooks are pretty much arbitrary. There are almost as many ways to calculate the page number as there is ereader software. ...
I use the built-in ePub page numbers, so they're consistent across devices (Sony, Nook, Tolino, PocketBook and Kobo). Sometimes one device works better at day and one works better at night. I like to be able to pick up where I left off on one device and go to the page number on another. It's quick and easy when you can instantly go to a specific page.
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Let's say you have a Kobo and a Pocketbook both running RMSDK. Being able to go to a specific page number would be useful. But other then that, I cannot see it being any more useful.
Or a Kobo and a Nook... a Tolino... a Sony... etc.
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The page numbering is important when you are reading multiple books including the same book printed and in ebook format. I may read the paper version at home but when I travel I like to have the ereader with me. The Kobo is unacceptable as it will not go to page numbers.

I feel I have to stick to the SON PRS-T1 as it does what I need. Maybe time to hit ebay again and see how the last.

anyone have the SONY software for doenloading new firmware and the latest firmware?
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The page numbering is important when you are reading multiple books including the same book printed and in ebook format. I may read the paper version at home but when I travel I like to have the ereader with me. The Kobo is unacceptable as it will not go to page numbers.

I feel I have to stick to the SON PRS-T1 as it does what I need. Maybe time to hit ebay again and see how the last.

anyone have the SONY software for doenloading new firmware and the latest firmware?

If matching the page numbers between a reflowable ebook and paper book is very important to you, then you will need to start learning about either pagelist or pagemap directives. Otherwise, any relationship between the page numbers shown in a ebook and in whatever paper edition you happen to be reading is purely coincidental. And yes, paper editions will have different page numbering between paperback, trade paperback and hardcover. Even pdf ebooks run into issues since they often match the hardcover but that is not guaranteed.

Personally, if I am switching between ereader/app/paper, I tend to remember more that I am a few pages into chapter 9 as an example. Or the last phrase I read and do a search on it.
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Oynx readers can do most of that too except turning off the dictionary and marking as "read". Well and they all have better USB C instead of micro USB. Probably some Android app that checks all those boxes too it could run?

Agreed that going to a specific page in an ePub is completely pointless.

EDIT: Well actually on the models that have a pen at least you can disable finger touch in Neoreader except for the toolbar and you can flip pages using the buttons on that or use a Bluetooth remote.

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The page numbering is important when you are reading multiple books including the same book printed and in ebook format. I may read the paper version at home but when I travel I like to have the ereader with me. The Kobo is unacceptable as it will not go to page numbers.
Really? You have a paper book and an ebook with matching page numbers? From my experience, that is an absolute first. It means, as @DNSB implies, that a pagelist or pagemap has been created in the ebook, and that it was done for exactly the same edition of the paperbook that you have. And that the ereader you are using supports the pagelist and pagemap.
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I really like the sony prs-t1. I have a t3 that I don't like as they seem to have taken all the good features away. If SONY still sold the PRS-T1 i but another. I've been getting by using ebay to buy replacement units in advance.
I think a PockeBook reader will meet most, but not all of your requirements. You might want to download a current manual and check it out. (Unfortunately I don't use most of the features you require so can't adequately answer your questions.)
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Really? You have a paper book and an ebook with matching page numbers? From my experience, that is an absolute first. It means, as @DNSB implies, that a pagelist or pagemap has been created in the ebook, and that it was done for exactly the same edition of the paperbook that you have. And that the ereader you are using supports the pagelist and pagemap.
Over the past year I have compared about a dozen paper books checked out from my local library with the same book purchased as an ebook from amazon. Most matched page numbers except that the first page of a chapter is frequently off by one on a kindle.

Kindles don't support pagelist or pagemap, but software to convert EPUB to a kindle format does. The HTML for most of the ebooks had obvious targets for pagelist/pagemap. I have to assume that the same book from the same publisher in EPUB format would have either pagelist or pagemap.
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Over the past year I have compared about a dozen paper books checked out from my local library with the same book purchased as an ebook from amazon. Most matched page numbers except that the first page of a chapter is frequently off by one on a kindle.
If and only if the Kindle ebook has an associated .apnx file which matches the paper book. See either the MobileRead Wiki entry for .apnx or the calibre apnx documentation which is bit more in depth.

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Kindles don't support pagelist or pagemap, but software to convert EPUB to a kindle format does. The HTML for most of the ebooks had obvious targets for pagelist/pagemap. I have to assume that the same book from the same publisher in EPUB format would have either pagelist or pagemap.
However Kindles since firmware 3.1 support .apnx files which serves the same purpose as pagelist or pagemap.

Again, given that the page numbers can and will vary between different formats and editions of dead tree books and you can only match one edition, the utility of page numbers for ebooks is, IMNSHO, very limited.
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The page numbering is important when you are reading multiple books including the same book printed and in ebook format. I may read the paper version at home but when I travel I like to have the ereader with me. The Kobo is unacceptable as it will not go to page numbers.

I feel I have to stick to the SON PRS-T1 as it does what I need. Maybe time to hit ebay again and see how the last.

anyone have the SONY software for downloading new firmware and the latest firmware?
The thing is, ePub page numbers do not match the pBook page numbers. So if you've read page 78 of the pBook, you are not going to be able to go to page 78 of the ePub and be at the same place. While you can search on the Reader to find where you left off, you cannot do that with your pBook.

However, if you have a Kobo, you can see how many pages are left in the chapter you are reading and if it's not too much, you can finish the chapter and then it's no problem syncing the pBook.

So in your case, go to by page number isn't as important as seeing how much you have left in the current chapter.
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Really? You have a paper book and an ebook with matching page numbers? From my experience, that is an absolute first. It means, as @DNSB implies, that a pagelist or pagemap has been created in the ebook, and that it was done for exactly the same edition of the paperbook that you have. And that the ereader you are using supports the pagelist and pagemap.
This is why being able to see how many pages left in the chapter is more important then go to by page number. This way the OP can see if he can finish the chapter before switching to the pBook.
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