Female or male? That is the question!

[Abelturd]

Originally Posted by HarryT

It loses a lot in translation. You really have to read it in the original Greek to truly appreciate it. For a start, no translation can really do justice to the hexameter verse.

What you're saying is that you can read in Classical Greek? Who are you - Superman?

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Abelturd

What you're saying is that you can read in Classical Greek? Who are you - Superman?

Hardly. Just someone who reads Latin and Greek for fun, and has done for many years. It's really not that hard, believe me.

[YGG-]

SO I did my duty too : I'm a bloke, a guy, "un mec" as we say in French...
[I hate cars and soccer; I don't have a TV; I enjoy cooking; if I hadn't taken care of the kids when they cried at night they probably wouldn't have survived...]
And the stereotype about women & technology (does translate in numbers, for instance male/female frequentation on the Internet...) might be here offset by the other stereotype about women reading more than men?
(can't leave you people for 24h without finding the place in turmoil when back, heh? Must be spring or something)

[Abelturd]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Hardly. Just someone who reads Latin and Greek for fun, and has done for many years. It's really not that hard, believe me.

Sounds like a cool thing to do. From now on, you're my hero. And uh-uh-uh, no polite protests are gonna save you from it.

[netseeker]

Originally Posted by HarryT

You're honestly telling me that you consider the Iliad and the Odyssey - two of the "foundation stones" of western literature - to be "poor poetry"? They are amongst the greatest "epic" poems ever written!

Sure, great "epic". But is "epic" the same as "poetry"? Even Diogenes and Zoilos meant that Homer was much overrated.

[RickyMaveety]

Originally Posted by netseeker

I agree for greece as inventor of philosophy but not for poetry, in fact poetry in old greece was very poor and they have called nearly any literature "poetry".

Germany as "Nation of oompa bands"...hm, i've to think about this. You could be right.

"nation of beer and sausage"
This is mere prejudice (or envy because our beer is the best )...

I love Greek poetry myself. But, I'll agree not everyone does. I freaking hate beer .... all beer. So, saying someone makes the best beer is like saying they make the best pee. I'm still not going to drink the stuff. I'll just have to take your word on it.

You have to be careful using the definitive article to describe any nation or culture or group of people. If you try to define them by their best, then you also run the risk of having them defined by their worst. In fact, since the worst generally get more press than the best, I'll guarantee you that a nation will be defined by its worst long after its best have become a dusty memory.

[YGG-]

Originally Posted by Over

Yes. It's known that women can read, listen to the radio, watch TV and have a conversation all at the same time. Which is very diferent from men, who can do all the above, but one thing at a time.

Not so : http://brainrules.blogspot.com/2008/...titask_16.html.

[lilac_jive]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Hardly. Just someone who reads Latin and Greek for fun, and has done for many years. It's really not that hard, believe me.

I found the Odyssey pretty easy to read, and I was a terrible greek student.

[netseeker]

Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

I love Greek poetry myself. But, I'll agree not everyone does. I freaking hate beer .... all beer. So, saying someone makes the best beer is like saying they make the best pee. I'm still not going to drink the stuff. I'll just have to take your word on it.

You have to be careful using the definitive article to describe any nation or culture or group of people. If you try to define them by their best, then you also run the risk of having them defined by their worst. In fact, since the worst generally get more press than the best, I'll guarantee you that a nation will be defined by its worst long after its best have become a dusty memory.

Ok, you started with the prejustice that we germans aren't keen enough to let our women learn to read, then you told me that Germany is the nation of "beer and sausage" and now this. Sorry but this conversation is becoming too serious for me.

[julia103]

I'm female and like SF, fantasy and mysteries more than romance novels. Although I do like romance included in the other genres, such as in the Amelia Peabody mysteries (by Elizabeth Peters) or the Liaden Universe (by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller).

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by netseeker

Sure, great "epic". But is "epic" the same as "poetry"? Even Diogenes and Zoilos meant that Homer was much overrated.

The Iliad and Odyssey are written in hexameter verse; they are unquestionably poems. In fact the very word "epic" originally meant "something written in hexameter verse".

[netseeker]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Homer is undoubtedly poetry. It's written in hexameter verse.

Yes you are right. What i wanted to say is: great epic is not automatically great poetry too. And using a particular verse doesn't result in great poetry in every case.

[Tracey]

Sport, especially football, crime, adventure and war stories are my favourites - but i am a girl! Could have my plumbing adapted but i think i'll stick with the version i have!

Come on girls, keep voting!

[ravenne]

Originally Posted by Tracey

Sport, especially football, crime, adventure and war stories are my favourites - but i am a girl! Could have my plumbing adapted but i think i'll stick with the version i have!

Come on girls, keep voting!

Let´s say that all blue-fish-voters are female, we have 58 men and 58 women.

[netseeker]

Originally Posted by ravenne

Let´s say that all blue-fish-voters are female, we have 58 men and 58 women.

Even then we would have 58 men and 57 women at the moment...