The Vent and Rant Thread - Page 151

Lady Blue · 03-27-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DixieGal

This is just a toss-in seeing as how the discussion is about birthing babies. One of our patient's mom managed to flabbergast us all in 2007. She gave birth in early '07. Immediately got pregnant and had '07 baby #2. Immediately got pregnant again with '07 baby #3, although it was not born until '08. 2007 was a three-fer for her!

Sounds like my one set of grandparents. They used to joke that every time my grandfather hung his pants on the bedpost, my grandmother ended up pregnant. They had 14 children.

DixieGal · 03-27-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lady Blue

Sounds like my one set of grandparents. They used to joke that every time my grandfather hung his pants on the bedpost, my grandmother ended up pregnant. The had 14 children.

Ow, my aching back! (Sympathy pains, and I've never even had a baby!)

krisk · 03-27-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DixieGal

This is just a toss-in seeing as how the discussion is about birthing babies. One of our patient's mom managed to flabbergast us all in 2007. She gave birth in early '07. Immediately got pregnant and had '07 baby #2. Immediately got pregnant again with '07 baby #3, although it was not born until '08. 2007 was a three-fer for her!

My womb aches just reading that.

RickyMaveety · 03-27-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DixieGal

This is just a toss-in seeing as how the discussion is about birthing babies. One of our patient's mom managed to flabbergast us all in 2007. She gave birth in early '07. Immediately got pregnant and had '07 baby #2. Immediately got pregnant again with '07 baby #3, although it was not born until '08. 2007 was a three-fer for her!

All I can say is "ick" .... I'm just glad I'm neutered.

Lady Blue · 03-27-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DixieGal

Ow, my aching back! (Sympathy pains, and I've never even had a baby!)

What made it all the more astonishing was that grandpa was a big man of about 6'4" and grandma was maybe all of 4'8".

If she couldn't reach something up on a shelf she'd ask hubby for help. But all he'd do was to pick her up instead so that she could reach it for herself. That would annoy her to no end!

slayda · 03-27-2009, 05:46 PM

My philosophy about children is that the parents (or at least the grownups in the family) must out number the children. Since the USA's laws prohibit bigamy, that means no more than one child for me which is what I have. I was 36 when she was born & often told people that 36 is not too old to have a baby in the house but 56 is too old to have a 20 year old in the house.

Thankfully The problem has been triply fixed for us (twice for her and once for me).

montsnmags · 03-28-2009, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ShortNCuddlyAm

...I'm 39 this year, I think I might have known by now if I did...

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Originally Posted by Justy

...I'm also 39 and ppl are *still* asking me when I'm going to give my 5 yr old a brother or sister to play with.
...

I'm 39 this year too. I am very rarely asked in such family conversations as to when I will be providing the world with another sprog, but I am always ready to volunteer that it's "not for lack of trying!".

Cheers,
Marc

Lady Blue · 03-28-2009, 01:08 AM

I am so enraged about what I just watched on NIGHTLINE tonight, I can't even express it adequately. There was a segment about PUPPY MILLS run by the Amish of Lancaster, PA. I am somewhat familiar with both the peoples and the farms of the area, and I never would have suspected that they would be involved in such a despicable money making enterprise if I hadn't seen it. They described their practice of de-barking dogs, the dreadful C-sections they perform, and of course the totally deplorable conditions they're kept in. Apparently these operations are pretty widespread throughout the community and they've been rather successful in keeping it hidden. So much for their beliefs against "worldly conformity." They've proven to conform to much of the same EVIL they appear to shun outside of their private, peaceful world.

Alisa · 03-28-2009, 01:45 AM

I rescue kitties but some folks in the group I work with also take dogs and some have rescues from these mills. I met the sweetest little girl this last weekend. We were doing kitty adoptions at this particular fair but this little girl dog was along just to visit with one of the volunteers. She was the sweetest, friendliest, cuddliest little girl. She was missing an eye. I could tell by looking at her that she'd been through more than I could conceive of, but she still wanted to snuggle with us and meet new people. It was a testament to the good soul of dogs.

nohmi2 · 03-28-2009, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Blue

I am so enraged about what I just watched on NIGHTLINE tonight, I can't even express it adequately. There was a segment about PUPPY MILLS run by the Amish of Lancaster, PA. I am somewhat familiar with both the peoples and the farms of the area, and I never would have suspected that they would be involved in such a despicable money making enterprise if I hadn't seen it. They described their practice of de-barking dogs, the dreadful C-sections they perform, and of course the totally deplorable conditions they're kept in. Apparently these operations are pretty widespread throughout the community and they've been rather successful in keeping it hidden. So much for their beliefs against "worldly conformity." They've proven to conform to much of the same EVIL they appear to shun outside of their private, peaceful world.

I hope that there is a special HELL for them.

lilac_jive · 03-28-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Blue

I am so enraged about what I just watched on NIGHTLINE tonight, I can't even express it adequately. There was a segment about PUPPY MILLS run by the Amish of Lancaster, PA. I am somewhat familiar with both the peoples and the farms of the area, and I never would have suspected that they would be involved in such a despicable money making enterprise if I hadn't seen it. They described their practice of de-barking dogs, the dreadful C-sections they perform, and of course the totally deplorable conditions they're kept in. Apparently these operations are pretty widespread throughout the community and they've been rather successful in keeping it hidden. So much for their beliefs against "worldly conformity." They've proven to conform to much of the same EVIL they appear to shun outside of their private, peaceful world.

edit* you already said that. Yeah, my friend said the Amish are the worst. My friend bought his dog from one of them and had no idea.

And that's why everyone should adopt...

nekokami · 03-28-2009, 11:30 AM

I was really hoping this would turn out to be bad reporting on the part of Nightline, but apparently not:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/amish8.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/09/20/us...ll-debate.html

Lady Blue · 03-28-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by lilac_jive

edit* you already said that. Yeah, my friend said the Amish are the worst. My friend bought his dog from one of them and had no idea.

And that's why everyone should adopt...

That's what makes it all so sad. Even when you go to a shelter to adopt, you don't always know where the animals came from. Often those animals have been rescued from just such puppy mills (or hoarders) and so, in essence, you're still (unintentionally) supporting the practice by adopting that animal. It's still a good thing to adopt and better than the alternative, but it certainly doesn't solve the problem, or stop the practice.

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zelda_pinwheel · 03-28-2009, 11:40 AM

aren't there laws against such mistreatment of animals ? here we have the "Nallet law" from 1989 which expands on previously existing legislation to define sanitary conditions for animal raisers or keepers. it also outlaws the systematic euthanasia of lost or abandoned animals and prolongs the term they can stay in a shelter. i would hope that such places would be hunted out and closed and all the animals removed to better conditions.

nekokami · 03-28-2009, 11:54 AM

%(*&#)($*&# Google redirect ads!

I suppose this means I have some ugly malware in my system somewhere.

Maybe it's just time for a rebuild.

03-28-2009, 01:08 AM	#2258
Lady Blue the snarky blue one Posts: 6,001 Karma: 3877825 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: deep in the heart Device: PRS500, 505 & 600, PRST1 & T2, Kindle PW, Moto Razr, Galaxy Tab 2-10"	Exposed on Nightline I am so enraged about what I just watched on NIGHTLINE tonight, I can't even express it adequately. There was a segment about PUPPY MILLS run by the Amish of Lancaster, PA. I am somewhat familiar with both the peoples and the farms of the area, and I never would have suspected that they would be involved in such a despicable money making enterprise if I hadn't seen it. They described their practice of de-barking dogs, the dreadful C-sections they perform, and of course the totally deplorable conditions they're kept in. Apparently these operations are pretty widespread throughout the community and they've been rather successful in keeping it hidden. So much for their beliefs against "worldly conformity." They've proven to conform to much of the same EVIL they appear to shun outside of their private, peaceful world.

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slayda Retired & reading more! Posts: 2,764 Karma: 1884247 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Alabama, USA Device: Kindle 1, iPad Air 2, iPhone 6S+, Kobo Aura One	My philosophy about children is that the parents (or at least the grownups in the family) must out number the children. Since the USA's laws prohibit bigamy, that means no more than one child for me which is what I have. I was 36 when she was born & often told people that 36 is not too old to have a baby in the house but 56 is too old to have a 20 year old in the house. Thankfully The problem has been triply fixed for us (twice for her and once for me).

03-28-2009, 01:45 AM	#2259
Alisa Gadget Geek Posts: 2,324 Karma: 22221 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Paperwhite, Kindle 3 (retired), Skindle 1.2 (retired)	I rescue kitties but some folks in the group I work with also take dogs and some have rescues from these mills. I met the sweetest little girl this last weekend. We were doing kitty adoptions at this particular fair but this little girl dog was along just to visit with one of the volunteers. She was the sweetest, friendliest, cuddliest little girl. She was missing an eye. I could tell by looking at her that she'd been through more than I could conceive of, but she still wanted to snuggle with us and meet new people. It was a testament to the good soul of dogs.

03-28-2009, 11:30 AM	#2262
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	I was really hoping this would turn out to be bad reporting on the part of Nightline, but apparently not: http://www.religioustolerance.org/amish8.htm http://www.nytimes.com/1993/09/20/us...ll-debate.html

03-28-2009, 11:40 AM	#2264
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	aren't there laws against such mistreatment of animals ? here we have the "Nallet law" from 1989 which expands on previously existing legislation to define sanitary conditions for animal raisers or keepers. it also outlaws the systematic euthanasia of lost or abandoned animals and prolongs the term they can stay in a shelter. i would hope that such places would be hunted out and closed and all the animals removed to better conditions.

03-28-2009, 11:54 AM	#2265
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	%(&#)($&# Google redirect ads! I suppose this means I have some ugly malware in my system somewhere. Maybe it's just time for a rebuild.