I Just Want To Read

[JSWolf]

To get back on topic, once setup correctly, you can buy eBooks from Amazon or ePub, remove DRM if any, and convert to the format of your choice for reading on the device of your choice.

The reason I suggested the Kobo Forma is for the 8" screen and the many more choices of font sizes. In the US, the Forma costs $249.99. A Kindle Oasis costs $279.99. So you are paying more for a Reader with a 7" screen then a Reader with an 8" screen. The Kobo (IMHO) has better firmware then the Kindle. From what I've been reading on MR, the Kindle has gotten a bit confusing with the latest firmware because of how they've implemented their new series feature.

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

To get back on topic, once setup correctly, you can buy eBooks from Amazon or ePub, remove DRM if any, and convert to the format of your choice for reading on the device of your choice.

The reason I suggested the Kobo Forma is for the 8" screen and the many more choices of font sizes. In the US, the Forma costs $249.99. A Kindle Oasis costs $279.99. So you are paying more for a Reader with a 7" screen then a Reader with an 8" screen. The Kobo (IMHO) has better firmware then the Kindle. From what I've been reading on MR, the Kindle has gotten a bit confusing with the latest firmware because of how they've implemented their new series feature.

And how much does a Likebook Mars cost, with which I can use the Kindle, Kobo, Pocketbook, ...., App and can also borrow books from various libraries.
I have found this.

[davidfor]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

But "branded" devices do not offer the capabilities offered by Android devices.
They may be more convenient to use - but only to a very limited extent.
If that's enough for you, you can pay more in total.
In any case, I can get the books from anywhere and read them in whatever setting I want.

"Anywhere" obviously doesn't mean from any legal store as according to everything you have said it is illegal to read those books on anything other than the device sold by that store.

And you are going to have to prove the price. As stated above, it is impossible to get these Android e-ink devices here in Australia at anywhere near the price of either the Kobo or Kindle ereaders. As it is perfectly legal for me to put books I have sourced elsewhere on them, how can it possible that I will "pay more in total"?

And before you say anything: I am completely happy to pay more for a good quality product. The problem will be that you and I have different opinions of what "good quality product" means.

And that is not directly possible with any "brand" device without "messing around".

What does that mean? My Kobo devices include a browser. I can use that to download books directly from the web.

And the devices you mention above, these are ones you have personal knowledge and have used?

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by davidfor

And you are going to have to prove the price. As stated above, it is impossible to get these Android e-ink devices here in Australia at anywhere near the price of either the Kobo or Kindle ereaders. As it is perfectly legal for me to put books I have sourced elsewhere on them, how can it possible that I will "pay more in total"?

Look here! $199.--

What does that mean? My Kobo devices include a browser. I can use that to download books directly from the web.

Then try to load an Adobe DRM epub directly with the browser.

And the devices you mention above, these are ones you have personal knowledge and have used?

Yes.
I don't have a Likebook Mars, but I did.
Also, I don't own Boox Nova 3 and Note 2/3, but I own Boox Nova 2 and Note Air.

Obviously you haven't informed yourself about the available options and you also believe everything that Kobo and Amazon and .... ramble about.
This is of course convenient, but it costs money and if you deviate from it it becomes cumbersome.
Apart from that, their devices are technical and cheapest crap.

[pazos]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

Obviously you haven't informed yourself about the available options and you also believe everything that Kobo and Amazon and (...)
Apart from that, their devices are technical and cheapest crap.

Dear ottischwenk. Please do your own reasearch.

1. There're no Android e-ink devices. These you mention are based on AOSP and can run Android apps to some extent.

2. You seem worried about users breaking TOS but don't give a dimme about companies making profit breaking Google trademarks and stealing IP.

3. By recommending devices without no valid warranty (other than the provided by the shop that delivers them) and no FCC/EC/equivalent compliance, you could be deceiving some users, which are not aware about what buying these device really means to them.

So please get down from your ivory tower, listen to others and don't assume your needs or your likes match other users needs or likes.

OP is looking for a "I just want to read, no frills" and your recommendation has nothing to do with that, but is based on "how many cores, wow".

And please, please, please stop telling others than their suggestions or likes are stupid. That's annoying and doesn't add value to your own opinion.

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by pazos

Dear ottischwenk. Please do your own reasearch.

1. There're no Android e-ink devices. These you mention are based on AOSP and can run Android apps to some extent.

2. You seem worried about users breaking TOS but don't give a dimme about companies making profit breaking Google trademarks and stealing IP.

3. By recommending devices without no valid warranty (other than the provided by the shop that delivers them) and no FCC/EC/equivalent compliance, you could be deceiving some users, which are not aware about what buying these device really means to them.

So please get down from your ivory tower, listen to others and don't assume your needs or your likes match other users needs or likes.

OP is looking for a "I just want to read, no frills" and your recommendation has nothing to do with that, but is based on "how many cores, wow".

And please, please, please stop telling others than their suggestions or likes are stupid. That's annoying and doesn't add value to your own opinion.

Dear Pazos, before you give me such advice, take a look at the garbage that Netronix (Kobo, etc.) produces - even the plastic housings are made of inferior material that lasts longer than the warranty period, but then there are clearly signs of wear and tear on the coating.

Apart from that, I don't care what the operating system is called, the only important thing is that other applications can be installed and used - applications that can be configured according to my needs.

I don't ask much for e.g. 10.3 inches in terms of flexible layout: sans serif font, line spacing 125%, only wrong landscape format in two columns, left-justified, no first line indentation but paragraph spacing, library management for more than 10,000 ebooks, direct loan option from various libraries including Amazon, ....

Or same requirements for 7.8 inches.

Which reader from which brand can do this?

I ask for just one suggestion!

[pdurrant]

Off-topic posts have been moved to their own thread.

Please only address the OP's question in this thread.

[s1mp13m4n]

Thank you for the help. I feel that the Kobo products provide a better value for the money compared with Kindle. I need to decide between Libra and Forma. What it comes down to is the larger screen worth the extra money. I see now that with Calibre you can convert formats so that solves problems. I like the Overdrive support of the Kobo. I like the landscape rotation of the Kobo. I will buy a Kobo Libra or Forma.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

Dear Pazos, before you give me such advice, take a look at the garbage that Netronix (Kobo, etc.) produces - even the plastic housings are made of inferior material that lasts longer than the warranty period, but then there are clearly signs of wear and tear on the coating.

Apart from that, I don't care what the operating system is called, the only important thing is that other applications can be installed and used - applications that can be configured according to my needs.

I don't ask much for e.g. 10.3 inches in terms of flexible layout: sans serif font, line spacing 125%, only wrong landscape format in two columns, left-justified, no first line indentation but paragraph spacing, library management for more than 10,000 ebooks, direct loan option from various libraries including Amazon, ....

Or same requirements for 7.8 inches.

Which reader from which brand can do this?

I ask for just one suggestion!

My word, that is one ugly eBook layout.

I have had my Kobo Aura H2O 6 years one month and there are no signs of wear. I keep my H2O in a case and I treat it well. The plastic on a Kobo Reader is not going to show signs of wear unless you cause it to happen.

As far as the OPs request for just reading, why does the OP need an app associated with every eBook store? Every shop that sells ePub with ADE compatible DRMand no DRM you can buy and read on a Kobo or a Kindle. You can buy eBooks from Amazon and read them on a Kobo. It's not hard and we can help as much as we can and if the OP needs more help to get sorted, we can point him where to go. Once setup, it just works.

So once you get used to the Reading app you like, you don't need to keep switching because you bought an eBook at a different store.

[Pajamaman]

Originally Posted by s1mp13m4n

Thank you for the help. I feel that the Kobo products provide a better value for the money compared with Kindle. I need to decide between Libra and Forma. What it comes down to is the larger screen worth the extra money. I see now that with Calibre you can convert formats so that solves problems. I like the Overdrive support of the Kobo. I like the landscape rotation of the Kobo. I will buy a Kobo Libra or Forma.

Check the two specs carefully. I know that the Forma supports dropbox, but the Libra does not. There may be other software differences between the two that are important to you.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by s1mp13m4n

Thank you for the help. I feel that the Kobo products provide a better value for the money compared with Kindle. I need to decide between Libra and Forma. What it comes down to is the larger screen worth the extra money. I see now that with Calibre you can convert formats so that solves problems. I like the Overdrive support of the Kobo. I like the landscape rotation of the Kobo. I will buy a Kobo Libra or Forma.

The Forma screen is about the same size as the iPad Mini. If you need to have larger text, I would recommend the Forma. One other thing about the Forma that's not been mentioned. The Forma uses a plastic backed screen so it is more durable against bump, drops, pressure, etc.

Another thing not mentioned is weight. The Libra weight 192 grams and the Forma weights 197 grams. The reason being is the plastic backed screen is lighter. So you get a bigger screen for no noticeable extra weight.

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

My word, that is one ugly eBook layout.

For a beautiful layout I read leather-bound paper books with gilded edges - I have about 200 m2 of those.
This layout Im using for effective text and content reception.

[MarjaE]

What kind of books do you plan to read?

If they're epub, mobi, or azw books, then a small e-ink screen will work fine. You can just switch the font sizes, and reflow everything.

If they're pdf, then a larger screen will be necessary. If you can't use the standard glowing screens, large e-ink screens can get expensive.

What kind of user interface?

If you have trouble with touchscreens, then either a button-based device, or a touch device with a lot of accessibility settings. I had a hard time with an Icarus Illumina before it broke, but an easier time with a Likebook Mars. Still trouble typing, and with certain menus in less-responsive spots.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by MarjaE

What kind of books do you plan to read?

If they're epub, mobi, or azw books, then a small e-ink screen will work fine. You can just switch the font sizes, and reflow everything.

If they're pdf, then a larger screen will be necessary. If you can't use the standard glowing screens, large e-ink screens can get expensive.

What kind of user interface?

If you have trouble with touchscreens, then either a button-based device, or a touch device with a lot of accessibility settings. I had a hard time with an Icarus Illumina before it broke, but an easier time with a Likebook Mars. Still trouble typing, and with certain menus in less-responsive spots.

The @s1mp13m4n is nearsighted and a 6" screen will be too small. If make the text large enough, you end up with an ugly screen with a poor reading experience. I don't know how large the text will need to be to be comfortable, but if you have a Forma, I think the text will be large enough without looking ugly.

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by s1mp13m4n

What it comes down to is the larger screen worth the extra money.

It's not just the bigger screen, which is why there is this extra cost.
It is based on a different technology (Mobius, flexible), is lighter and is practically unbreakable.