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Old 03-05-2009, 12:56 PM   #31
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i'm beginning to think that there's really no way to judge from a photo, because the photos we've seen so far vary so extremely in apparent quality.
You're right on that one. I've been to Borders to look at both the 505 and 700 and frankly the 700 is A-Okay. Glare not a problem.
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Frankly speaking even 505 glare is annoying sometimes, so if 700 is any worse, I cannot imagine how one can read on it.
Since Spring is coming, so more opportunities to read outside in the sun, I will see how the 700 does. I had no problems reading in the sun on the 500 and the 700 does not seem worse screen-wise; on the 700 I read several times outside again without any problems, but also only for short periods for now

Inside I never had any trouble reading on the 700 however bright the lights are
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Old 03-06-2009, 04:41 AM   #34
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Since Spring is coming, so more opportunities to read outside in the sun, I will see how the 700 does. I had no problems reading in the sun on the 500 and the 700 does not seem worse screen-wise; on the 700 I read several times outside again without any problems, but also only for short periods for now

Inside I never had any trouble reading on the 700 however bright the lights are
Glare problems I mentioned are always inside issues. Outside I had no problem with the reader. However, I almost never read outside....on a very very rare occasion, or when I am on sunny holidays. Artificial light is causing glare sometimes.
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Glare problems I mentioned are always inside issues. Outside I had no problem with the reader. However, I almost never read outside....on a very very rare occasion, or when I am on sunny holidays. Artificial light is causing glare sometimes.
Nothing like sitting on a bench in a park where my son is playing and read

With the 770 it was its biggest failing - had to find a very shady place and even then it was tricky, so I got to carrying print books in the all-around-backpack with food, water and stuff
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Glare problems I mentioned are always inside issues. Outside I had no problem with the reader. However, I almost never read outside....on a very very rare occasion, or when I am on sunny holidays. Artificial light is causing glare sometimes.
I find the absence glare on my PRS-505 is very good!
Only when you turn the reader in such an angle when it reflects some light bulb or spot straight in your eye.
Otherwise I can read just fine outside and inside. Outside in full sunshine the white background of the reader is actually a bit too light.
I happen to find it very difficult to actually get glare on my 505, since you only have less than 5 degrees in the full 360 degrees 3D spectrum where you can get the sun reflecting in the screen.
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Sun - no problem, however a bulb behind my back or a light at the ceiling in refectory can be annoying. Not very often, so I cannot call it an issue, but it happens on rare occasions. That's my point. If it manages to annoy me on 505, and everybody says on 700 it is quite more noticeable, I cannot imagine how people can read on it.
I know, I am very demanding. When I read a printed book, I do not expect to adjust it to see better, so I expect the ebook reader to behave I accept it as my personal problem
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Old 03-13-2009, 09:10 AM   #38
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glaring on PRS-700

Hey folks,

There is some days since my last post, and I have bee hanging around with miine PRS-700 instead the PRS-505 and I got the glare totally usual, even my occasional headache, while reading on my PRS-505 for long periods of time has gone. And the features now available on PRS-700 made it a amazing piece of hardware, the search engine always make my life easily, notes and the fast page turn either. For those that have seeing other version like PRS-505, PRS-500 with a plain e-ink can say it is fogged, the problem is that the type of "touch screen" used to only allow 87% of the light, instead the glass resistance, like iPhone and G1 screen, that allow 92% of the light, although versions that is using those must get higher prices, because that technology for large experience still really expensive.

Other point is the internal led light for nocturne reading, it made a lot of difference, I had one or two chance to need it is worked kind of amazing.

I do recommend the PRS-700, the glare is an issue, yes it is but once you get usual how to avoid it became really amazing, it is fast, filled up with amazing features and even to use to read technical stuff it does really good once you can search for your things in a ferry fast way.

so, for those whom want to aim to have one, I do recommend the PRS-700.

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Old 03-24-2009, 06:11 PM   #39
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It's not as bad as the photos make it appear. Digital cameras, if they focus or set their white balance on one item (the brightest, usually) will leave other things looking very dim, whereas a picture taken of only the 700 will show its detail much more crisply.
This is an interesting idea. I would like to see two shots: one of the only the 505 and one of only the 700, taken at the same spot, same lighting, with the same camera.

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Old 03-25-2009, 01:07 AM   #40
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I've not seen any good video reviews of either --- most exaggerate the glare problem in the same way that stills can. Trek's posts here are among the most representative I've seen, and I appreciate the time and effort it takes to get good pictures and post them... thanks!

Owing to an incident with my 700, backpack, and a Caltrain door, I have both a 505 and 700 around the house now. (The 700 still works, but has cosmetic damage and the USB port is flaky now *sigh*... and a new Bookarmor case for the commute).

Frankly, consensus here is mixed. I am blown away by how clear the 505 screen is --- but the 700 is perfectly readable at most of the time, and after getting used to the touch screen interface, it's hard for me to use the 505. Until the 700 dies completely, I'm going to stick with it, I think, especially as it's a trifle faster with the PDFs I usually read.

On the other hand, my son and wife are both smitten by the 505 display. The kid liked the 700 to begin with, but I can't get the 505 away from him now; my wife was totally unimpressed by the 700's display, but has given me a list of titles to track down for her to read on the 505.

So it really does seem to be something that's best experienced hands-on, if you can...
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I got my reader yesterday and read for a about 4 or 5 hours. I didn't recognize a "bad" glare problem. There is a minimum of glare, but as soon as you change the angle a littele bit, it's gone.
I wouldn't even speack of a problem. Does anybody here use a display protection sticker? Hm, don't know, what exactly it is called in English. You know, the kind of plastic sticker, that goes over the entire display and protects it from scratches etc.

Over here we have 2 different kinds, one is called "anti reflex". Since I always use these stickers, for my handy and ipod, I might try one for the reader too. Maybe it solves the (for me hardly recognizing) glare issue and maybe it also helps to prevent dust spots.

I read in a different threat, that some of the users have this problem. I checked my reader yesterday instantly, but couldn't find any dust spot at all. So I hope it will stay that way for the future
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I got my reader yesterday and read for a about 4 or 5 hours. I didn't recognize a "bad" glare problem.
Congratulations on your new PRS-700 !
I agree, glare is not a problem!
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By the way, I think reading a glossy magazine or sometimes even a printed book, has much more light reflexions and force me to change the angle while reading it. On my 700 reading is a whole lot more relaxing
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For some reason, I always thought or assumed that the 700 was actually a bigger screen than the 505, but its not. Very useful to see side by side comparisons of them together. I certainly dont want a 700 now.
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How anyone, after seeing these pictures, can even remotely say there is not glare or that the two screens are equal is flat out in denial. And I totally disagree with the one poster who commented that taking a picture of both side by side is not a fair comparison. WHAT!? That is the ONLY way to really get a comparison in my mind.

Thanks sooooo much for you pictures. I had been to Borders and looked at both units and thought right off that the glare was a major pain on the 700, but after getting home thought maybe I over reacted or something. Nope, it would drive me nuts.
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