Likebook Alita

[ottischwenk]

1.) SD cards in a tray are not designed for changing, using them as removable media is possible, but not very smart - that's what USB-OTG is for.
2.) If there are workflow problems with a device, then it would make sense to adapt the workflow to the device, but not want the device to be adapted to the workflow, or even complain that the device causes problems in this workflow.
3.) If an app fails on a device, it is the app, not the device (read the 1 star ratings for this app).

Does someone has a good (working) workflow to save pdf annotation and export it correctly?

Handwritten comments in pdf files are saved in the pdf and can be displayed in other pdf applications

[-Nx-]

3.) If an app fails on a device, it is the app, not the device (read the 1 star ratings for this app).Handwritten comments in pdf files are saved in the pdf and can be displayed in other pdf applications[/QUOTE]

Correct it is the app. Handwritten comments in pdf are not displayed correctly in this case.

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by -Nx-

Correct it is the app. Handwritten comments in pdf are not displayed correctly in this case.

change the app.

[parkher]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

For reading I use reading devices such as the Tolino Epos 2, it weighs 195 g and I can hold it comfortably in my hand.

Well, Boyue Ares weights what, 268 g?
Still light enough to hold in one hand. Not 195 g, of course, but at least a real e-reader with 512 GB card and with enough RAM.
I cannot imagine what I could do with 6 GB of available storage.
I can survive with a rooted 6" Sony PRS-T2 (167 g) in landscape orientation and with 32 GB card in it. It allows to install at least the most needed for reading dictionaries and encyclopedias.
BTW, in landscape orientation, it is possible to use the folded back cover as a hook, so that the reader just hangs on your finger and cannot slip from your hand. A big advantage if the book you are reading turns out to be boring and makes you sleep

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by parkher

Well, Boyue Ares weights what, 268 g?
Still light enough to hold in one hand. Not 195 g, of course, but at least a real e-reader with 512 GB card and with enough RAM.
I cannot imagine what I could do with 6 GB of available storage.

6 GB is enough for some books.
With Calibre Companion, I can get whatever I want from the cloud at any time

BTW, in landscape orientation, it is possible to use the folded back cover as a hook, so that the reader just hangs on your finger and cannot slip from your hand. A big advantage if the book you are reading turns out to be boring and makes you sleep

With the cover it already weighs about 370 g - almost double that of Epos 2, which is also very easy to hold for me due to its format and its buttons.

[parkher]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

6 GB is enough for some books.
With the cover it already weighs about 370 g - almost double that of Epos 2, which is also very easy to hold for me due to its format and its buttons.

No, with cover it weighs 189.5 g - still less than Epos 2.
Sony PRS-T2: 167 g, its Sony cover: 22.5 g.
Because it is only 6" - that is why I am using it in landscape.
And I can hang it on a finger - it is a bonus.
No need for landscape for a 7.8" reader. Or 8".

As to 6 GB enough for some books: but not for offline dictionaries and encyclopedias. That is one of the biggest advantages of an e-reader over a paper book: one touch lookup when reading a book.

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by parkher

No, with cover it weighs 189.5 g - still less than Epos 2.
Sony PRS-T2: 167 g, its Sony cover: 22.5 g.
Because it is only 6" - that is why I am using it in landscape.
And I can hang it on a finger - it is a bonus.
No need for landscape for a 7.8" reader. Or 8".

As to 6 GB enough for some books: but not for offline dictionaries and encyclopedias. That is one of the biggest advantages of an e-reader over a paper book: one touch lookup when reading a book.

I don't know the T2 you are describing. I only know something like that from the T3 and I don't have it. I've also changed my view of lighting and only use devices with lights.
I also differentiate between:
- read a book. I neither need nor want encyclopedias, dictionaries, or anything else - I just want the text and the ability to easily get it, e.g. via WiFi. And I would prefer this in two columns in landscape format on an at least 8 inch and light device. 8 inches are too big for on the go, so I read one column on my Poke2 in portrait format. And for the plane there is a Tolino Shine 3 that has been converted to 256 GB. I don't need a pen either.
- work with documents. Only in this case do I need a large storage capacity and for this I have equipped my Likebooks (Ares and Alita) with internally formatted 128 GB SD cards. If I need even larger amounts of data, there is OSB-OTG. The pen and keyboard are very comfortable in this area. For on the go I use the Likebook Ares and at home only for portrait format pdfs the Likebook Alita and otherwise the Boox Note Air; and in the process I discovered that what was important to me in the past, namely always having all the data with me, has become secondary. Now the only thing that matters to me is that I have it when I need it.
And the free 25 GB of Note Air are sufficient for this and the rest can be obtained via WiFi and USB-OTG.
Interestingly, the features of the Boox Note Air offer me so much better that I no longer take the advantage - large memory - of the Likebook Alita so seriously, because there are other solutions.

[parkher]

T3 was never rooted, as far as I know, and that is why I never bought it. I wanted it badly, but I had no use for it, not rooted. I have only rooted T1 and T2. Seven of them (I gave some of them to my family).
And I was rooting for Sony. I greatly admire Sony for not betraying the purpose of e-ink, for integrating lights into the cover rather than into the e-ink screen.
But at the same time I cannot understand why they decided to go under with their e-reader business rather than to make android open. They saw that people were buying only their devices that could be rooted, didn't they? They deliberately made a newer T2 firmware modification making it impossible to root T2 - and nobody bought those T2s, only the T2s with correct for rooting firmware. I was quick enough to get two, but I had to buy two more from USA instead of Europe, hunting for the correct firmware version.
As to the devices with lights - so no, a good external clip-on light is so much kinder to the eyes and makes the screen look so much more like a paper page.
I demonstrated this to several of my friends who did not believe it before they saw it in the dark. I got them converted. Of course, I try to avoid the need for a clip-on light, I don't read paper books with a clip-on light either. To me, an e-ink reader with light is an oxymoron - it defeats its purpose - e-ink was invented to make the screen not to emit light. And that is why we are paying big bucks for it.
You can hurt your eyes with a tablet of better specs for a half or a third of the price.
I never work with any documents, for that I have several computers with multiple big screens. Yeah, hurting my eyes with better specs…
So for me e-reader is only for reading fiction.
And I like wide margins, so 7.8" Ares is perfect in portrait orientation.
And even Alita is great with even wider margins. With Alita I read in single column in portrait orientation with very wide margins so that the page in the middle of the screen is of the size of a real printed book page.
But I have also some pdf books (well, many), and they contain scans or pictures of paper book pages (not yet OCR'ed) - so 10.3" allows to read such a pdf with book pages of the original size without any zooming or shrinking. These pdf files are about A5 in page size, exactly the size of 10.3" screen.

And I sometimes use 10.3" for sheet music. I was thinking about getting a 13.3" (or what is its size) e-reader for that, but I am using a 24" AiO computer with touch screen hanging conveniently instead, so it is good not only for sheet music but also for various music software: DAWs, virtual instruments, etc. Such a screen allows to have two pages of A4 sheet music side-by-side in perfectly natural size. Again, not so many hours a day at this, so e-ink is not crucial.

[viceant]

What about using a dictionary on Alita? I use Oxford Avanced Learner's dictionary in my Likebook Plus (T80s) and it sometimes doesn't detect correctly the word and shows a resembled one.

[parkher]

There must be also morphology dictionaries present. At least for GoldenDict.
So that the root is correctly extracted, or something like that. Still, it not always works.
Some languages are rather simple, like English, words mostly without endings anyway.
But others cause more problems.

I am using many various dictionaries simultaneously with GoldenDict.
And GoldenDict is invoked from Cool Reader.
I am using this scheme in all of my android readers, even in T1 and T2.
Cool Reader + GoldenDict + many dictionaries for multiple languages.
For English, I have installed among others: Urban Dictionary, Encyclopedia Britannica, American Heritage Dictionary, Longman, Hornby and other Oxford dictionaries, Cambridge, Collins, Macmillian, Merriam-Webster, Roget, WordNet, various slang dictionaries, dictionaries of synonyms, idioms, collocations, etc. I likely forgot some of the more important ones in the list... Also some dictionaries in multiple flavors, especially Oxford, Webster.

When used on multiple dictionaries GoldenDict finds the word (or expression) let's say not in all of them, but only in some. You may have your dictionaries in the order you want, so that if the word is found in multiple dictionaries you have your favorite dictionaries at the top. You may ignore the rest. But sometimes a word is found only in the last one…

[ottischwenk]

@parkher: EInk devices do not provide any transmitted light, but only incident light (this corresponds to lighting from the outside) - they are therefore not comparable with LCD or other luminous screens.
And I think that the internal lighting should only be used as a light source in emergencies, only when there is no ambient light, but mainly serve to enhance contrast.
And although I have Quad 32 inch screens at my workstations, I now prefer to work with documents in a light environment on my little-lit (approx. 10%) Boox Note Air - it strains my eyes much less.
And I only use EInk for music notes, simply because it doesn't light itself and is also glare-free.
Yes, I even use EInk for my navigation system - my Poke Pro in A2 mode is ideal for this via BT connection to my Unihertz Atom (micro smartphone).

[viceant]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

Yes, I even use EInk for my navigation system - my Poke Pro in A2 mode is ideal for this via BT connection to my Unihertz Atom (micro smartphone).

Doesn't have Alita a basic browser for the web?

[parkher]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

@parkher: EInk devices do not provide any transmitted light, but only incident light (this corresponds to lighting from the outside) - they are therefore not comparable with LCD or other luminous screens.

Exactly what I was saying. E-ink does not emit light so why put a light emitting layer on it. If you want a glowing screen, you can get a cheaper tablet instead.

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

And I think that the internal lighting should only be used as a light source in emergencies, only when there is no ambient light, but mainly serve to enhance contrast.

That is the very thing I am vehemently against. To enhance contrast.
There is another way to enhance contrast - to have a good external lighting, like reading outside on a sunny day. Or with a good reading lamp.
I have an array of 6 lamps, each individually adjustable, specifically for reading.
I can accept that it is convenient to use the internal lighting in emergencies,
but to keep it always on (like it is made in Kindle) to enhance contrast - it is exactly defeating the purpose of e-ink. Kindle glows in the dark. You pay a lot for e-ink so that it does not glow, and you get a glowing screen instead. Unless you use a hack to disable that glowing. It is not possible to disable it in Kindle in settings.
As far as I am concerned, I probably want to buy a kindle - it is a class action lawsuit waiting to happen. Why should I miss out on a chunk of that money?

Sorry for the outburst. I see that the bosses of this forum already made a disapproving hint to me to stop preaching about not using the internal light: they put "Evangelist" below my name. Just noticed. OK, they don't like my preaching, I get it.

[parkher]

Originally Posted by viceant

Doesn't have Alita a basic browser for the web?

Yes, it does.
But it also has android - you can install any android browser you like.
I am answering theoretically - I never used any browser, and I never used wi-fi in Alita, but I see a browser among apps.
And, I guess, there should be at least a Chrome, and perhaps an Opera for android, and perhaps some other browsers.
I think I have those on my phone.
Oh yes, and FireFox too.

[viceant]

Originally Posted by parkher

Yes, it does.
But it also has android - you can install any android browser you like.
I am answering theoretically - I never used any browser, and I never used wi-fi in Alita, but I see a browser among apps.
And, I guess, there should be at least a Chrome, and perhaps an Opera for android, and perhaps some other browsers.
I think I have those on my phone.
Oh yes, and FireFox too.

Ok, but I meant whether its browser is good suited and comfortable because scrolling pages can be annoying if it's slow


Edit: I guess it's not so smooth because, as @ottischwenk said, it hasn't A2 mode.

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