Thanks, and a small request/proposal.

jist · 10-31-2020, 05:23 AM

Hi kovidgoyal,

First of all, thanks for this exceptional piece of software!
I have finally put in the effort to learn it better, and it impresses me with ever little discovery and feature that I learn.

Fantastic work, and relentless continued development and support too.
A real gem.

I also have a small request/proposal:

On the left side of the Tag Browser panel there are small arrows to collapse an entry.
But the area where you can click them is very narrow.
There also isn't an indication if your cursor is on the arrow or on the text besides it.
It could be me, but it is very often a hit-and-miss when I want to collapse.

It would be great if you could consider some improvement there.

Thanks again!
I am finally really enjoying my ebook library.

BetterRed · 10-31-2020, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jist

Hi kovidgoyal,

First of all, thanks for this exceptional piece of software!
I have finally put in the effort to learn it better, and it impresses me with ever little discovery and feature that I learn.

Fantastic work, and relentless continued development and support too.
A real gem.

I also have a small request/proposal:

On the left side of the Tag Browser panel there are small arrows to collapse an entry.
But the area where you can click them is very narrow.
There also isn't an indication if your cursor is on the arrow or on the text besides it.
It could be me, but it is very often a hit-and-miss when I want to collapse.

It would be great if you could consider some improvement there.

Thanks again!
I am finally really enjoying my ebook library.

Not it's not just you. It is one of the factors that resulted in the new feature in version 5.4 - access the TB tree with the keyboard, discussion is here ==>> Using the keyboard in the tag browser

BR

jist · 10-31-2020, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Not it's not just you. It is one of the factors that resulted in the new feature in version 5.4 - access the TB tree with the keyboard
BR

Thanks BetterRed.

That might be a useful option for keyboard jocks, but personally I find that using the keyboard to navigate that panel takes too many actions:
Put focus on that panel, use up/down to select field, use left/right to collapse/expand.

All that can be done with one single mouse click...
(if you hit the correct pixels the first time, that is ;-)

kovidgoyal · 10-31-2020, 06:29 AM

You're welcome, sadly those bits are drawn by Qt the toolkit calibre uses, not in my control.

bongorash · 10-31-2020, 06:31 AM

I have also found the small arrows difficult to use - it's been a while since I used calibre but don't remember it being this hard to manoeuvre the tag browser.

BetterRed · 10-31-2020, 04:45 PM

The arrows themselves haven't gotten any smaller, but they do have less white space fore and aft of them

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The editor's the same, but its tree has always been keyboard navigable.

BR

ownedbycats · 10-31-2020, 04:47 PM

Wait, did you edit that image or are you running two versions of Calibre simultaneously? I've never been able to do that.

BetterRed · 10-31-2020, 05:09 PM

Windows 11 feature

BR

ownedbycats · 10-31-2020, 05:41 PM

That explains everything.

jist · 10-31-2020, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

The arrows themselves haven't gotten any smaller, but they do have less white space fore and aft of them

Thanks for further investing this BetterRed.
Let's hope this info makes it possible for kovidgoyal to take another look at it?

BetterRed · 10-31-2020, 05:46 PM

@owb - The posted image is a snip and snap of Version 5 running over a snip and snap image of Version 4.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jist

Thanks for further investing this BetterRed.
Let's hope this info makes it possible for kovidgoyal to take another look at it?

Maybe - but the editor and Sigil book/file tree browsers have the same issue, but they are keyboard navigable; so for me they are less troublesome.

BR

JSWolf · 10-31-2020, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Windows 11 feature

BR

Um..Botch job from some Linux repository.

kovidgoyal · 10-31-2020, 09:03 PM

The amount of whitespace being reduced was in response to a user request, IIRC. This will increase it a bit: https://github.com/kovidgoyal/calibr...ff9eaa59258107

bongorash · 11-02-2020, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

The amount of whitespace being reduced was in response to a user request, IIRC. This will increase it a bit: https://github.com/kovidgoyal/calibr...ff9eaa59258107

Thanks kovid but I have no idea what to do with that link you gave - do I have to add that code to a file in the calibre directory ?

georgemk · 11-02-2020, 10:48 AM

It's just Kovid's way of saying it will be in the next release of Calibre by his highlighting the change in the code repository.

10-31-2020, 05:23 AM	#1
jist Enthusiast Posts: 40 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2018 Device: Onyx Note Lite - Win10	Thanks, and a small request/proposal. Hi kovidgoyal, First of all, thanks for this exceptional piece of software! I have finally put in the effort to learn it better, and it impresses me with ever little discovery and feature that I learn. Fantastic work, and relentless continued development and support too. A real gem. I also have a small request/proposal: On the left side of the Tag Browser panel there are small arrows to collapse an entry. But the area where you can click them is very narrow. There also isn't an indication if your cursor is on the arrow or on the text besides it. It could be me, but it is very often a hit-and-miss when I want to collapse. It would be great if you could consider some improvement there. Thanks again! I am finally really enjoying my ebook library.

10-31-2020, 04:45 PM	#6
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 21,939 Karma: 30277294 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	The arrows themselves haven't gotten any smaller, but they do have less white space fore and aft of them The editor's the same, but its tree has always been keyboard navigable. BR

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10-31-2020, 06:29 AM	#4
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,561 Karma: 28548962 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	You're welcome, sadly those bits are drawn by Qt the toolkit calibre uses, not in my control.

10-31-2020, 06:31 AM	#5
bongorash Enthusiast Posts: 25 Karma: 13112 Join Date: Sep 2008 Device: Kobo Glo, Kobo H2O, Kobo Aura 1, Kindle Voyage, Kobo Forma	I have also found the small arrows difficult to use - it's been a while since I used calibre but don't remember it being this hard to manoeuvre the tag browser.

10-31-2020, 04:47 PM	#7
ownedbycats Custom User Title Posts: 11,248 Karma: 77935877 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Canada Device: Kobo Libra H2O, formerly Aura HD	Wait, did you edit that image or are you running two versions of Calibre simultaneously? I've never been able to do that.

10-31-2020, 05:09 PM	#8
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 21,939 Karma: 30277294 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	Windows 11 feature BR

10-31-2020, 05:41 PM	#9
ownedbycats Custom User Title Posts: 11,248 Karma: 77935877 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Canada Device: Kobo Libra H2O, formerly Aura HD	That explains everything.

10-31-2020, 09:03 PM	#13
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,561 Karma: 28548962 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	The amount of whitespace being reduced was in response to a user request, IIRC. This will increase it a bit: https://github.com/kovidgoyal/calibr...ff9eaa59258107

11-02-2020, 10:48 AM	#15
georgemk Addict Posts: 244 Karma: 291844 Join Date: Oct 2019 Device: Kobo Nia	It's just Kovid's way of saying it will be in the next release of Calibre by his highlighting the change in the code repository.