OS Urination Challenge

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

He's never quite gotten it into his head that "Windows 10" is a pointer to a specific version, which not everyone is privileged enough to be able to afford

Windows 10 is still free for anyone running Windows 7 or 8/8.1. Some of the people complaining about Calibre are doing so for no reason other then they like to winge because they could easily upgrade for free and then run the latest Calibre.

I grant that some cannot upgrade because something won't work that is needed to work. But for those that do not have this issue, there's no reason not to upgrade.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

Windows 10 was available as a free upgrade for a while, but as my own experience shows it didn't really work on all legacy hardware—along with lack of driver support, it also ran very poorly on my old computer. And in any case it's not free anymore.

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-d...dows-7-is-dead

Windows 10 is still free to download. Here's how to get the upgrade now

The link in the article to download Windows 10 for free still works. The article is dated August 24, 2020.

So anyone (who is reading this) putting off upgrading to Windows 10 because they think it's going to cost, can upgrade for free.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

I do encourage people to do so... the *entire* problem is that for many people, their hardware is not compatible, and they need to buy new hardware which is not free. This is pretty pout-worthy.

Well, Microsoft is not Apple. Don't know how it is in the US, but here you can get a lightly used Win10 laptop that's in good order pretty cheaply.

[ownedbycats]

But then you'd have to use a laptop. Ewwwwwwwwww.

[Sarmat89]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

glibc's ABI supports 20-year-old programs.

We are talking complex software, not "hello world" one.

Drivers on Windows break just as often on Windows, you certainly don't get "decades" of use out of them.

Wrong.

which is why Linux users rarely worry about installing drivers from a CD...

In Linux you indeed don't install the drivers from CD like a normal person. You have to compile them, hoping for the interfaces not being fatally broken in the meantime.

By all means, please do keep telling me how the hundreds of software components I keep on building

You can build them because the developers keep fixing the incompatibilities of interfaces and the build system. In Windows, stuff compiled once works for decades without constant need of renovation.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

But then you'd have to use a laptop. Ewwwwwwwwww.

I think the same about using a desktop. Horror. I'm one of those weird people who can't sit in one position for longer than an hour or two, max. So using a stationary computer is a total no-no for me. With a laptop I can change places and positions as often as I want.

[ownedbycats]

Originally Posted by chaley

How about we put a stop to this pissing contest about which is better, linux or windows?

Somehow I doubt this is going to happen.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by chaley

How about we put a stop to this pissing contest about which is better, linux or windows?

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

Somehow I doubt this is going to happen.

Of course not since everyone knows that MacOS is better than either.

[binaryhermit]

That's a weird spelling of "worse"...

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by Sarmat89

We are talking complex software, not "hello world" one.
Wrong.
In Linux you indeed don't install the drivers from CD like a normal person. You have to compile them, hoping for the interfaces not being fatally broken in the meantime.
You can build them because the developers keep fixing the incompatibilities of interfaces and the build system. In Windows, stuff compiled once works for decades without constant need of renovation.

We can resume this discussion once you ever use Linux for the first time ever in your life. I'm not interested in your 2002 urban legends about Linux.

In the meantime, if people would like to run calibre 5.0 on their current hardware and Microsoft does not let them, they can install Linux and it will in fact work quite adequately despite calibre being complex software.

I personally guarantee it will be usable without the user being required to compile their own drivers.

[ownedbycats]

I appreciate the new thread title.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

I appreciate the new thread title.

[JSWolf]

I think we should band together and urinate all over Linux repositories (suppositories since they are a pain in the ass) since most of them make a mess of Calibre.

[BetterRed]

If anyone is wondering, this thread had its genesis here ==>> Windows 7 compatibility excessive restriction

BR

[Sarmat89]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

your 2002 urban legends about Linux.

Sure, sure. SiS videocard? You need to compile. Epson scanner/printer? Compile again! (Or use a generic driver that enables some 10% of a printer's features). Install F-Spot (an app newer than Windows 7)? Nope, it already bit-rotten.

Linux is built around a primitive and obsolete architecture. It is not suitable for desktop or running any complex software due to lack any kind of user-level API past the ridiculously obsolete POSIX.