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Old 08-23-2020, 08:44 PM   #166
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my apologies to all who rightly want to discuss all aspects of this firmware.

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Old 08-23-2020, 08:53 PM   #167
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general speaking those who disagree with me on here are usually the same select few, of which you are most certainly at the top of the list. i made the point i wasn't the only one who thought the page number didn't show while using the scrollbar/slider because it's true and also because it wasn't instantly obvious.

i'm not the first person nor will i be the last who as missed reading a comment/post on here. i admit that at first what David (who you refer to) wrote in his reply to me i didn't pick up on what he meant straight away. when i did i was surprised he thought i was making a claim for some new knowledge that had just being giving to me, that certainly was not my intention. even though i disagreed with him on how it read i amended my initial edit accordingly.

please point me to my claims that i have made that are false and my history of not reading comments fully?

edit. what i could/should have done regarding my comment at post 118 is it would have been better if i'd have put (in my opinion) rather than i'd make the case. that's a miswording/mistake that i certainly won't make again in the future.

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Literally look through this thread. I’m not going to skim through all your posts here to give an exhaustive list.

And yes what you could have done is use the right terminology. Or at least admit to using the wrong terminology the first time you’re called out on it rather than, I think the third time especially when you also want to dissect others word choice.
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Old 08-23-2020, 08:57 PM   #168
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As a courtesy, could you post a picture of what My Books looks like on a KA1? I've never seen one in person and images online tend to mostly show show the homescreen. Perhaps naively, I'd assumed that the Aura ONE looked mostly like a blown up version of the Clara. When I do see other screens, like settings for instance, that is what it tends to look like.
I’ll try to get screenshots for the Forma and H2O up. No promises as I’ll have to mess with some cables to do it on the H2O
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Old 08-23-2020, 08:57 PM   #169
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As a courtesy, could you post a picture of what My Books looks like on a KA1? I've never seen one in person and images online tend to mostly show show the homescreen. Perhaps naively, I'd assumed that the Aura ONE looked mostly like a blown up version of the Clara. When I do see other screens, like settings for instance, that is what it tends to look like.
Here you are. The KA1 has not had any kobopatches applied but it has had both MiniClock & NickelMenu installed. Hence the 5th Nav button and 'HH:MM - battery%' display in the bottom right corner. Neither of these affect available free space.

Each of the 5 book row containers is 22.5mm height. the 5th one measures about 24.5mm, meaning the 'free' gap between bottom book and footer menu is about 2mm.
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Old 08-23-2020, 09:03 PM   #170
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Literally look through this thread. I’m not going to skim through all your posts here to give an exhaustive list.

And yes what you could have done is use the right terminology. Or at least admit to using the wrong terminology the first time you’re called out on it rather than, I think the third time especially when you also want to dissect others word choice.

i notice you have decided to conveniently forget the keyword i wrote which was (probably) why have you changed your mind completely/so quickly from explaining to uncle robin at your post (150) that you (knew) what i meant/was getting at?


edit. for context, my full comment=i'd make the case those who are not lamenting the demise of the go to page probably didn't used it much/never.

edit. i'm still waiting for you to point/show me the claims that i have made that are false and my history of not reading comments fully?

edit. last but not lest. you've said i've made false claims that's a serious accusation you (need) to either substantiate it or withdraw it?

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Old 08-23-2020, 09:09 PM   #171
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Here you are. The KA1 has not had any kobopatches applied but it has had both MiniClock & NickelMenu installed. Hence the 5th Nav button and 'HH:MM - battery%' display in the bottom right corner. Neither of these affect available free space.

Each of the 5 book row containers is 22.5mm height. the 5th one measures about 24.5mm, meaning the 'free' gap between bottom book and footer menu is about 2mm.
Ah, list view.

Well, they could still list page number up next to Sort and Filter.

Persistent page number isn't a biggie to me. But there is space that it could be added to the screen.
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Old 08-23-2020, 09:28 PM   #172
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Well, they could still list page number up next to Sort and Filter.
... until someone wants to use the beta Large Print mode, when that gap doesn't exist either, if you've set the scale high enough.

I expect every individual user could find a gap where the page numbers would be convenient for them. Unfortunately, as I said before, finding somewhere to suit everyone isn't easy.

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Old 08-23-2020, 09:46 PM   #173
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i notice you have decided to conveniently forget the keyword i wrote which was (probably) why have you changed your mind completely/so quickly from explaining to uncle robin at you post (150) that you (knew) what i meant/was getting at?

edit. for context, my full comment=i'd make the case those who are not lamenting the demise of the go to page probably didn't used it much/never.
Read over my replies, I covered this.

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edit. i'm still waiting for you to point/show me the claims that i have made that are false and my history of not reading comments fully?
I covered this too. And ironically you've demonstrated it again with this post.

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edit. last but not lest. you've said i've made false claims that's a serious accusation you (need) to either substantiate it or withdraw it?
And again it's been covered, in this very thread.
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Old 08-23-2020, 09:50 PM   #174
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Here you are. The KA1 has not had any kobopatches applied but it has had both MiniClock & NickelMenu installed. Hence the 5th Nav button and 'HH:MM - battery%' display in the bottom right corner. Neither of these affect available free space.

Each of the 5 book row containers is 22.5mm height. the 5th one measures about 24.5mm, meaning the 'free' gap between bottom book and footer menu is about 2mm.
This is close enough to make no difference with what I'm seeing on the Forma, which isn't surprising given the 0.2" screen size difference. I imagine the H2O would maybe be closer to the 6" Clara but with slightly less space.

Either way, unless there's a pressing need I'll hold off getting the screenshots since Jackie was so kind as to provide one.
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Read over my replies, I covered this.



I covered this too. And ironically you've demonstrated it again with this post.



And again it's been covered, in this very thread.

i'd make the case those who are not lamenting the demise of the go to page probably didn't used it much/never. that isn't a claim of fact because it includes the word probably. which you knew full well otherwise you wouldn't have explained it like you did to uncle robin at your post (150) that's there for all to see.

i've noticed you clearly want to forget your post at (150) and don't want to discuss it or be reminded of it for obvious reasons. if my comment had been, i'd make the case those who are not lamenting the demise of the go to page didn't used it much/never. then you might have a point, but i didn't.

as i've mentioned already you've said i've made false claims, you know that's a serious accusation that you need to provide evidence/proof to substantiate it? if you can't do that then i suggest you admit it's a blatant lie and withdraw it? only by doing one or the other will the matter be concluded otherwise it will not be.

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Old 08-23-2020, 10:26 PM   #176
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i'd make the case those who are not lamenting the demise of the go to page probably didn't used it much/never. that isn't a claim of fact because it includes the word probably. which you knew full well otherwise you wouldn't have explained it like you did to uncle robin at your post (150) that's there for all to see.

i've noticed you clearly/obviously want to forget your post at (150) and don't want to discuss it or be reminded of it. if i'd put, i'd make the case those who are not lamenting the demise of the go to page didn't used it much/never. then you might have a point, but i didn't.

as i've mentioned already you've said i've made false claims, you know that's a serious accusation that you need to provide evidence/proof to substantiate it? if you can't do that then i suggest you admit it's a blatant lie and withdraw it? only by doing one or the other will the matter be concluded otherwise it will not.

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Literally addressed my response to uncle robin after the first time you asked about it. At this point your continued persistence to that is evidence of your false claims.

Two birds one stone. And just in case you have lingering doubts about the above rest assured I don’t care if you consider this matter concluded or not. I am not bound to please you with my answers.
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While I don't disagree with you that koboy is drastically overestimating the number of people who care about the removal of this feature he did say those who aren't lamenting the feature being dropped "probably" didn't use it much or at all.

But try not to put much stock in these complaints, he's also whinged about Kobo since around or before the H2O v1 era, and is very obviously nitpicking over this feature to reaffirm his decision to stick with the tiled home screen version of the firmware. In my opinion there is little short of bringing that home screen back that Kobo could do that'd satisfy Koboy in terms of UI/UX, any other change he doesn't love is just icing on the cake.

I find it's much easier to treat his statements the same as many do a certain other persons claims that you must absolutely use a case for your ereader, or their railings against USB C, and how Nook has sheathed their devices in rubber.
it's amazing how quickly someone can change their mind when it suits them to do so.

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Literally addressed my response to uncle robin after the first time you asked about it. At this point your continued persistence to that is evidence of your false claims.

Two birds one stone. And just in case you have lingering doubts about the above rest assured I don’t care if you consider this matter concluded or not. I am not bound to please you with my answers.
i agree whole heartily your not bound to respond/reply, although silence will be judged accordingly. i suppose it all depends on if you want to be known for either telling the truth or telling lies, it's entirely up to you which one it is. once again please provide evidence/proof that i have made false claims? if you can't do that then do the decent/moral thing and withdraw?

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when i make an honest/genuine mistake i admit it straight away i don't wait for someone else to point it out to me.
Which you have not done.[/QUOTE]
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i see, so you honestly think my wording of (i've just found out) makes it sound like it's a new feature that Kobo just added? if so i couldn't disagree more.

i'm not sure how you made the leap from (i've just found out) to translating that as meaning a brand new hot off the press Kobo feature. that being said i will amend it slightly to clear up anymore possible future confusion.
No. Your wording was that it was a new feature that YOU had just discovered and nobody had seen before.

And for the record, it is a new feature Kobo had added in the previous version of the firmware. It is new, less than two weeks old at this point, but it had been mentioned a few times including to you in this discussion.

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Which is not something I have commented on at all.

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it's amazing how quickly someone can change their mind when it suits them to do so.

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Indeed, like how you insist you've learned to read threads better and yet skipped over my reply to your initial questioning of that response.

Not that I'm surprised, as you've noted six some odd years of experience have shown me what to expect from your posts.
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