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Old 07-19-2020, 03:34 PM   #16
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Thx for the help, but will never import an electronic device, want something that's supported in SA.
Don't worry not rushing out just yet, want to confirm things about kindle and go back to shop and talk to manage. Looked same company imports both so will find out more as to why they don't do kobo anymore.

Want to know why I was told not to buy the kindle, has things changed from PW3 to PW4, or do they just have no clue.
I just had a look on Kobo.com and I see under Where to Buy it shows...

South Africa
Takealot

Does that help?
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Old 07-19-2020, 05:09 PM   #17
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Have you checked at Kobo.com to see if they will ship to you?
It looks like there's even a Kobo South African store...

https://www.kobo.com/za/en

NEVER MIND. For buying eReaders (themselves) it takes you to Takealot.

But the eBooks could be bought at Kobo SA.

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Old 07-19-2020, 07:46 PM   #18
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I have the current and previous generations of Paperwhite. I don't really prefer one over the other. I keep mine online so I can't really speak to what features you lose by not connecting them.

I also have a couple of Kobos. I do prefer the Kindle to the Kobo but not by much. If I could only have one I'd prefer a Kindle but I'd be okay with either one.

That said, these days I do most of my reading on my phone. It's always in my pocket and I'm just not motivated to go find my Kindle when I already have the phone handy.

In my opinion there really aren't any bad choices here. I'd just use whatever you feel like using. They're all good.

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Old 07-20-2020, 01:55 AM   #19
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Thanks for the answers, did try reply yesterday but kept getting error and can't post duplicate and then eventually said can't post anymore today

So as you may see it's not just a case of not wanting to have ereader that relise on being online often, it's more a case of me not going nuts with a bad cell signal. So I choose to avoid things that would drive me nuts.


Out of curiosity, the kindle with adverts, do they pop up when reading? Or only in sleep mode and home screen. Have a feeling the 2 sales guys are in for a big surprise when next I see them, as they said even when reading.
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Old 07-20-2020, 02:16 AM   #20
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Out of curiosity, the kindle with adverts, do they pop up when reading? Or only in sleep mode and home screen. Have a feeling the 2 sales guys are in for a big surprise when next I see them, as they said even when reading.
No, not while reading.
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Old 07-20-2020, 02:51 AM   #21
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Thanks, wonder why sales guy said don't. From what I have read 1 couldn't delete books from the device unless online, but also read they stopped that. What about registering your device, was told you had to. Just don't want to buy a paper weight.
I've never registered my device, though you'll miss out on stuff like creating collections and reading lists so there's that. Apart from that, deleting books is fine even without an account.
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I just had a look on Kobo.com and I see under Where to Buy it shows...

South Africa
Takealot

Does that help?
I know but they say suppler out of stock for the last 4 months. I have even seen them in shops but they no longer stock or sell them.

I have looked at kobo's online shop noticed their ebooks cheaper than amazon, can buy 3 for the price of 2 from amazon.

But also don't like buying electronic goods online, they get damaged or go missing etc.
Takealot are so busy now, lots of complaints about delivery and they have even switched off phone, you have to post a message on message board and they may get back to you within 72 hours.
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I have the current and previous generations of Paperwhite. I don't really prefer one over the other. I keep mine online so I can't really speak to what features you lose by not connecting them.

I also have a couple of Kobos. I do prefer the Kindle to the Kobo but not by much. If I could only have one I'd prefer a Kindle but I'd be okay with either one.

That said, these days I do most of my reading on my phone. It's always in my pocket and I'm just not motivated to go find my Kindle when I already have the phone handy.

In my opinion there really aren't any bad choices here. I'd just use whatever you feel like using. They're all good.

Barry
Thanks Barry, main reason for an eink device is you can read outdoors and apparently they are better for ones eyes also they battery life, but reading on forum about reallife battery I cannot expect weeks. We loose power often so will be great having something that lasts longer than a phone. Also better to go camping with as also don't have to worry about it getting a bit wet.
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I've never registered my device, though you'll miss out on stuff like creating collections and reading lists so there's that. Apart from that, deleting books is fine even without an account.
And it's dictionary works ? Last post said they where not sure it would work if never registered.


Going to reach my quote of posts soon
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And it's dictionary works ? Last post said they where not sure it would work if never registered.


Going to reach my quote of posts soon
I've changed your membership status to give you access to Private Messages and (I think) increase your posting quota.

The Kindle will download the dictionary when you first try to use it, so you will need to be on-line to allow the dictionary to download.

There are two versions of the Kindle PW4.

One has only WiFi, the other has both WiFi and a subscription-free Mobile Data connection to access the Amazon servers over cell towers.

If you can make a WiFi hotspot with your phone, the more expensive one with mobile data probably isn't worth the extra to you.

You can download books from Amazon directly to the Kindle over WiFi, or you can connect the Kindle to your computer by USB and copy books onto it manually or using calibre.

You can delete books from the Kindle without the Kindle being connected.

If you want to read the same book sometimes on your kindle and sometimes on your phone, the last read position will only be transferred if the Kindle is connected to WiFi.
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I've changed your membership status to give you access to Private Messages and (I think) increase your posting quota.

The Kindle will download the dictionary when you first try to use it, so you will need to be on-line to allow the dictionary to download.

There are two versions of the Kindle PW4.

One has only WiFi, the other has both WiFi and a subscription-free Mobile Data connection to access the Amazon servers over cell towers.

If you can make a WiFi hotspot with your phone, the more expensive one with mobile data probably isn't worth the extra to you.

You can download books from Amazon directly to the Kindle over WiFi, or you can connect the Kindle to your computer by USB and copy books onto it manually or using calibre.

You can delete books from the Kindle without the Kindle being connected.

If you want to read the same book sometimes on your kindle and sometimes on your phone, the last read position will only be transferred if the Kindle is connected to WiFi.
Thanks and thanks.

Currently use a phone and a tablet and all I do is search for a word on the other device and start reading. But if battery lasts days on kindle I wouldn't need to do that. Unless taking it for granted that a PW4 has search function.
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Thanks and thanks.

Currently use a phone and a tablet and all I do is search for a word on the other device and start reading. But if battery lasts days on kindle I wouldn't need to do that. Unless taking it for granted that a PW4 has search function.
Yes, PW4 does have a search function. Or you can just note the location, and use 'Go To Location'.
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Thanks for the answers, did try reply yesterday but kept getting error and can't post duplicate and then eventually said can't post anymore today

So as you may see it's not just a case of not wanting to have ereader that relise on being online often, it's more a case of me not going nuts with a bad cell signal. So I choose to avoid things that would drive me nuts.


Out of curiosity, the kindle with adverts, do they pop up when reading? Or only in sleep mode and home screen. Have a feeling the 2 sales guys are in for a big surprise when next I see them, as they said even when reading.
I have both a Kobo Aura H2O and a Kindle Paperwhite 3 (7th generation). I prefer the Kobo because of the better firmware and the fact that Kobo (im most cases) does not EOL their older Readers. My H2O is almost 6 years old and it still gets firmware updates.

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I have both a Kobo Aura H2O and a Kindle Paperwhite 3 (7th generation). I prefer the Kobo because of the better firmware and the fact that Kobo (im most cases) does not EOL their older Readers. My H2O is almost 6 years old and it still gets firmware updates.
Ok, I think I get it, you really like kindle
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Ok, I think I get it, you really like kindle
The Kindle would be better if there were more options for how the eBook is displayed. Needs smaller margins, smaller line height, and more font size options. Also, it needs to be able to allow Calibre to access the database to manage collections. And KFX needs to go away and KF8 needs to allow better typesetting. Then the Kindle would be worlds better then it is.
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