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Old 06-12-2020, 04:43 PM   #331
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May have been fixed meaning 5.12.5 which the PW3 isn't getting.
You don't know that. I only caught the tail end earlier but reading the earlier posts on this thread (looking for 5.12.5 changes and feedback instead of PW3 EOL scaremongering), it looks like there's evidence that Amazon is working on 5.12.5 for the PW3 as @jhowell pointed out.

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It is possible that the PW3 update is just delayed. The Source Code Notice page has an entry for 5.12.5 firmware in the Kindle Paperwhite (7th Generation) section.

Mind, not all devices get the same point (.) updates. For example, both PW2 and PW3 skipped 5.11.1 and went directly to 5.11.2 while the KT4 and PW4 received 5.11.1.

The same version number doesn't always get released at the same time for all devices either. I seem to recall both PW2 and PW4 receiving 5.10.2 a month earlier than the PW3.
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Old 06-12-2020, 08:10 PM   #332
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I agree that we don't know what to expect from Amazon on the PW3. But I don't think picking on JSWolf about his opinions helps anything. He believes it's at EOL and maybe it is. I don't know and he doesn't either. I doubt it is. He thinks it is. That's why we have discussions.

This is starting to get a bit unfriendly and I don't think anything good can come from that.

I've been disagreeing with JSWolf for years, long before I joined this forum we had our disagreements in a chat room we were both in. He was always friendly and he still is. We just disagree. Personally I enjoy people who disagree with me. It's what makes discussions fun.

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Old 06-12-2020, 08:37 PM   #333
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Repeatedly making the same unfounded assertion is not discussion.
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Old 06-12-2020, 08:43 PM   #334
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The PW4 has more than 3 times as many user reviews as the PW3. That isn't proof of anything but it makes it seem likely.
You're probably looking at the refurb page with 9,953 ratings.

The regular product has 48,150 ratings.

https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Kindle...dp/B00OQVZDJM/

The PW3 was available for over 3 years. I doubt the PW4 overtook it this soon.
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Old 06-12-2020, 10:50 PM   #335
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I have tried most Kindles. PW3 is one of my not so favorite. I might be in the minority. It was the screen. It felt and looked like a mat finish photo compared to glossy. I like the PW4 and Oasis much better, just my opinion.
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Old 06-13-2020, 08:01 AM   #336
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Repeatedly making the same unfounded assertion is not discussion.
It would be less aggravating if he didn't then castigate other people for having the temerity to define what "end of life" means *while doing exactly the same thing himself*. Apparently only JSWolf is permitted to have opinions.

(Amazon have reportedly redeployed a significant percentage of staff working on the Kindle to other lab126 projects, notably a likely somewhat embryonic, perhaps pie-in-the-sky covid-19 testing initiative. This is not exactly proprietary information as it was all over the trade press a few weeks ago... and yes, your guess is as good as mine what good a bunch of big-embedded software developers can do for covid-19 testing. I guess for any portable solution there'll be some embedded software development required, and some of it might well be on the kinda-mobile-phone-sized platforms the Kindle team have experience with.)
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Old 06-14-2020, 11:06 AM   #337
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I agree that we don't know what to expect from Amazon on the PW3. But I don't think picking on JSWolf about his opinions helps anything. He believes it's at EOL and maybe it is. I don't know and he doesn't either. I doubt it is. He thinks it is. That's why we have discussions.

This is starting to get a bit unfriendly and I don't think anything good can come from that.

I've been disagreeing with JSWolf for years, long before I joined this forum we had our disagreements in a chat room we were both in. He was always friendly and he still is. We just disagree. Personally I enjoy people who disagree with me. It's what makes discussions fun.

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Hey Barry? Guess what? We dont care. Discuss the kindle or leave.
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Old 06-14-2020, 12:09 PM   #338
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Hey Barry? Guess what? We dont care. Discuss the kindle or leave.
I'm impressed that you have achieved moderator status in under a month of membership and 28 posts.
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I'm impressed that you have achieved moderator status in under a month of membership and 28 posts.

The dude is literally spamming this thread about his long time hatred for JSwolf

JSwolf is crying the pw3 being EOL

Enough crying.
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Old 06-14-2020, 01:26 PM   #340
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The dude is literally spamming this thread about his long time hatred for JSwolf

JSwolf is crying the pw3 being EOL

Enough crying.
The long time posters here are going to eat you alive.
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Old 06-14-2020, 02:34 PM   #341
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The dude is literally spamming this thread about his long time hatred for JSwolf

JSwolf is crying the pw3 being EOL

Enough crying.
Barry and I do not hate each other.
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Old 06-14-2020, 03:00 PM   #342
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Old 06-17-2020, 08:39 PM   #344
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I just noticed my kindle now has the invert black/white on the home screen next to the refresh button/ way cool
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Old 06-19-2020, 04:16 AM   #345
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I just noticed my kindle now has the invert black/white on the home screen next to the refresh button/ way cool
Care to make a screenshot and publish it here? Thanks a lot.
And which model (version)?

My Voyage got manually updated with Kindle Firmware 5.12.5 as soon as I got the info about the update (RSS-feed the digitalreader I think), I do not wait more than a few days, if there are issues I am usually sol, but may have an older firmware in a backup - have not needed to backlevel yet though, if that is even possible.
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