Best 10" and up readers?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

They have long been outdated and the consequence of this is not correctIt doesn't matter at all. The only software that I have found that is not running is Sygic - and I do not think that navigation software is useful for such a product.
Android 8 is also promised for July, but I really have to think about whether such an update makes sense - after all, I will definitely not handle any banking matters about it

How are all the videos obsolete?

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by Hitch

I gotta ask--why do you need two 7.8" readers? Or is it note-taking capability on one and not the other? I mean, hell, they're your devices, but I'm really curious. I have two of the (well, 3, but one died) of the Paperwhite family, which is a similar scenario, having multiple devices of the same size--they're all very alike in every way--but that's because I'm in the business and have them for testing, not because I wanted to have two effectively near-identical devices.

All 3 are Notes devices.
The first thing I bought was the 10.3 inch Likebok Alita because I wanted handwritten comments in my piano sheet music - 10.3 inches because the 13.3 inch devices are only unlit.
However, it was too big for me to read normally and so I got the 7.8 inch Likebook Ares.
Then I found it nice to write my comments in books, but with the Ares I could only do it in pdf files - but I also wanted it in other formats and so I came to the Boox Nova 2.
My most used device is the Ares, because with almost the same equipment (2/512 GB) as the Alita (4/512 GB) it is smaller and lighter - really portable - but I hardly use it as an ebook reader, but mostly as an outside device Computer with bluetooth keyboard.
The Boox devices (Nova2 - 3/32 GB, Note2 - 4/64 GB, Max3 4/64 GB) are too weak for me in terms of storage capacity (my Kiwix with Wikipedia needs about 50 GB), but my Nova2 is my most reader used

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

All 3 are Notes devices.
The first thing I bought was the 10.3 inch Likebok Alita because I wanted handwritten comments in my piano sheet music - 10.3 inches because the 13.3 inch devices are only unlit.
However, it was too big for me to read normally and so I got the 7.8 inch Likebook Ares.
Then I found it nice to write my comments in books, but with the Ares I could only do it in pdf files - but I also wanted it in other formats and so I came to the Boox Nova 2.
My most used device is the Ares, because with almost the same equipment (2/512 GB) as the Alita (4/512 GB) it is smaller and lighter - really portable - but I hardly use it as an ebook reader, but mostly as an outside device Computer with bluetooth keyboard.
The Boox devices (Nova2 - 3/32 GB, Note2 - 4/64 GB, Max3 4/64 GB) are too weak for me in terms of storage capacity (my Kiwix with Wikipedia needs about 50 GB), but my Nova2 is my most reader used

AH-ha, I see. Okay, your needs are quite different than mine, in that case. I was (am) primarily looking for something that would allow me to make detailed notes on files of different types, for research. I'm very unsure about the 10", though. I mean..I get it and I'd love more screen, but I've found the Fire 10" to be utterly unmanageble, realistically, for me. It's just the wrong size and shape for my hands (which aren't tiny, but...). Obviously, not all devices are sized and shaped for all people, and for whatever odd reason, the Fire 10" doesn't suit me. I bought it for testing, so it's not a wasted purchase, but I'm a bit annoyed that I have no use for it whatsoever, beyond that.

Ditto the new Oasis with the side panel for holding. It's bloody awkward, to me. The heel of the right corner digs into my palm. I was forced to replace my much-loved Voyage when it could no longer charge, and I stupidly bought this and I do NOT like it at all. After 20-ish minutes of reading, I have to stop or shift the device, as it digs into my bony palm.

(sigh). I wish I had one remotely local to me (NOTHING is remotely local to me) so that I could play with it, but I might just bite the bullet and buy and try, see what happens. Returning is also a major undertaking around here (60+ mile RT to the PO and back to ship stuff--it's the downside of living in a rural area), but I don't see a great alternative to find out if I'm going to like it or not.

Thanks, guys.

Hitch

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

How are all the videos obsolete?

New devices, changed features, ...

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by Hitch

I was (am) primarily looking for something that would allow me to make detailed notes on files of different types, for research.

Which kind of files?
If they are ebook files, I can recommend the Boox Nova2. You can write directly into it.

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

Which kind of files?
If they are ebook files, I can recommend the Boox Nova2. You can write directly into it.

Primarily eBook files and PDFs.

Hitch

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by Hitch

Primarily eBook files and PDFs.

In the Boox devices (NeoReader) you can write directly into the books with the pen.
At pfd this file is changed directly, with the other book formats I don't know how it works, but even if the font size is changed, for example, underlines or comments remain in the right places.
The Nova2 - 7.8 inches is quite comfortable in size.

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

In the Boox devices (NeoReader) you can write directly into the books with the pen.
At pfd this file is changed directly, with the other book formats I don't know how it works, but even if the font size is changed, for example, underlines or comments remain in the right places.
The Nova2 - 7.8 inches is quite comfortable in size.

Thank you for that. Do you find that the NeoReader is a good reader, generally? I mean...I've tried a lot of on-the-hoof readers out there for ePUB and most of them are not fantastic.

Hitch

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by Hitch

Thank you for that. Do you find that the NeoReader is a good reader, generally? I mean...I've tried a lot of on-the-hoof readers out there for ePUB and most of them are not fantastic.

In my eyes it has a bug - it only shows epub in block format.
Otherwise, it is extremely configurable - right down to the touch zones (3x3).

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

In my eyes it has a bug - it only shows epub in block format.
Otherwise, it is extremely configurable - right down to the touch zones (3x3).

When you say block format, you mean justified, is that right? Rather than ragged-right?

Hitch

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by Hitch

When you say block format, you mean justified,

Yes - but I want to read left-aligned and this is not possible.

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

Yes - but I want to read left-aligned and this is not possible.

I know that some people do. I'm older and old-school; I prefer justification over ragged right. Especially in eReaders; it seems almost invariably that when I encounter RR on Amazon it's dreadful and the books that I get from other sources are not much better. Given my druthers, justified.

But, to each their own. The Kindles increasingly are allowing that--ragged-right--so that should help you. With your huge collection, you probably have a few of those! ;-)

Hitch

[hobnail]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

Yes - but I want to read left-aligned and this is not possible.

Heh; I start grinding my teeth reading fully justified.

Too bad I'm not handy with a soldering iron and geeky with electronics (a hammer is about all I can handle); I'd turn my 10" Onyx into a digital picture frame like that guy posted here a while back.

[Hitch]

Originally Posted by hobnail

Heh; I start grinding my teeth reading fully justified.

Too bad I'm not handy with a soldering iron and geeky with electronics (a hammer is about all I can handle); I'd turn my 10" Onyx into a digital picture frame like that guy posted here a while back.

Is that about it in general, or simply due to justified text? Are there other problems that make you want to nuke it? Or did you like it, BUT for the justified text?

Curious--presumably, you grew up and went to school in a day and age before computers? I mean, many if not most MRers seem to be that age. What did you do about paper books? Textbooks, novels, etc.?

Hitch

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by Hitch

The Kindles increasingly are allowing that--ragged-right--so that should help you. With your huge collection, you probably have a few of those!

2 (PW2 and PW4) but unused.

I know that some people do. I'm older and old-school; I prefer justification over ragged right. Especially in eReaders; it seems almost invariably that when I encounter RR on Amazon it's dreadful and the books that I get from other sources are not much better. Given my druthers, justified.

If I want to admire the beautiful appearance of a book, I sit down in my library and read, feel and smell a paper book with leather cover and gold cut.
With a reader I am not interested in beautiful formatting at all. I want to record the text as effectively as possible and in the flow of readings I am hampered by the unevenly long spaces caused by the justification format.
In a well-set paper book, this does not happen, the letter width is also varied, which is not possible with the fonts in an ebook.