Windows 'recent' menu

[carmenchu]

A very minor issue, which I find distracting.
1. Right-clicking on the Sigil icon in windows10 start menu shows a list of 'recently opened documents'--only those opened directly from windows, not from calibre 'open epub with' nor from Sigil's own 'recent' list, which shows those.
2. BUT, as seen in the attachment it also shows recently added/updated plugins... some risk of unwanted clicks...

[DiapDealer]

QWinExtras provides some functionality into manipulating these Windows API-provided MRU jumplists, but I'm just not sure how far down the Windows rabbit-hole I'm willing to go in a cross-platform application. That would require really uglying up some fairly straightforward cross-platform code with uncertain results. I know I can add things to a new mru jumplist, but I've no idea if we could (or even want to) completely take over the automatic population of the existing win api provided mru jumplist. Nor do I think we would have any control over what gets added to that particular jumplist when Sigil is launched via calibre's Open With feature/plugin.

I'll do some investigating, though.

[carmenchu]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I'll do some investigating, though.

Thanks!
So far, the only program I know of that populates the MRU with all 'recently opened', irrespectively of mode of call (included 'open with' from another prgram) is Inkscape...
However, I have put that part as a lost cause--it seems more basic NOT to click the topmost item in Sigil's jump list and get an error == plugin, not epub!


Note: perhaps Inkscape 'sends to MRU' on file-close, instead on fle-opne...

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by carmenchu

Note: perhaps Inkscape 'sends to MRU' on file-close, instead on fle-opne...

The standard program MRU (available via the File menu) and the Windows Start Menu Recent Documents MRU jumplist are two completely different beasts. The first is easily controlled by Qt in a cross-platform manner. The second is a Windows-only affair that is only able to be influenced via the QtWinExtras library. None of Sigil's current code is being used to populate that list. That's all Windows.

[DiapDealer]

Actually when it boils right down to it, I can't duplicate your issue on Windows 7 (when Taskbar/Start Menu MRU jumplists were first introduced), or on Windows 10. No matter how many plugins I add to Sigil (or remove/update) via the the plugin manager, I can't get any plugin zip files to show up in the mru jumplist. The list is strictly epubs.

The Windows OS automatically populates that list, and it uses (registry) associated file-types to determine which file-types are appropriate to include for each application. Could it be that your registry file-type associations for Sigil have become damaged? Or maybe manually changed to include .zip mime-types somehow? Or you've not allowed .epub files to be associated with Sigil when installing Sigil?

[BetterRed]

Hmmm - if this is what you mean, you'll see that I get plugin .zips and .jpgs in Sigil jump lists :



I never use Sigil's jump list so I've not noticed, I either use Sigil from Windows or Calibre's built-in Open With.

But, I see that Sigil is in Windows Open With list for both .zip and .jpg - pretty sure I didn't put them there.

BR

I changed the taskbar icon so I could see it

[DiapDealer]

Sigil certainly didn't associate itself with .zip files (or anything else other than .epub for that matter). The Sigil installer contains exactly one option to associate files and that's for .epub. Any other associations or open-with choices have been made by the user or by Windows.

I don't use the built-in Windows jumplists either. But I can't get anything but epubs to show up in them on my Windows machines. I don't have the first clue how you guys are getting other filetypes to be associated with Sigil.

[BetterRed]

I've removed Sigil from .jpg and .zip Open With lists, and cleared Sigil's jump list. I'll try to keep an eye on them.

But, given all the .zip files that were in the MRU list were Sigil plugins suggests it's something to do with installing them

Yep, added FootnoteLinker plugin, now it's in the Sigil MRU and .zip Open With has Sigil as an option, and then I added a .jpg via File->Add->Existing files, and it's in the Sigil MRU and Sigil is in the .jpg Open With options.



Well, that wasn't hard.

Fessing up time - I'm using 1.0.0, but adding plugins and images is hardly bleeding edge technology

BR

[carmenchu]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

I've removed Sigil from .jpg and .zip Open With lists, and cleared Sigil's jump list. I'll try to keep an eye on them.

But, given all the .zip files that were in the MRU list were Sigil plugins suggests it's something to do with installing them

Yep, added FootnoteLinker plugin, now it's in the Sigil MRU and .zip Open With has Sigil as an option, and then I added a .jpg via File->Add->Existing files, and it's in the Sigil MRU and Sigil is in the .jpg Open With options.
BR

That's my situation as well, though I'm on version 1.2.
Moreover:
1. I haven't associated Sigil with anything as 'default program'
2. I put it on explorer's 'open with' only for epubs
3. It appears on its own (no action on my part) in the 'open with' menu of zip files and images, although images added to an epub opened from calibre don't go to the jump list...
Well--one of my grumbles against recent windows is its increasing 'underhand' featuring... but I find the particular sitution annoying: yes, I use the jump list for manuals I am editing directly in Sigil (not through calibre)...

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Yep, added FootnoteLinker plugin, now it's in the Sigil MRU and .zip Open With has Sigil as an option, and then I added a .jpg via File->Add->Existing files, and it's in the Sigil MRU and Sigil is in the .jpg Open With options.

That's exactly what I've been doing to test this, and neither the plugin's zip nor the jpg get added to the mru when I do it. Tested it on 3 different Windows 10 systems and one Windows 7 system now. And neither have affected the Open With list for either extension.

It's not Sigil doing it. It something on your systems.

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Fessing up time - I'm using 1.0.0, but adding plugins and images is hardly bleeding edge technology

It wouldn't matter what version of Sigil you were using. There's simply nothing in any of Sigil's codebase, or Sigil's installer code that can modify/affect the 100% Windows Start Menu/Taskbar MRU jumplist feature.

[BetterRed]

Happens in Safe Mode, no other programs running, no shell extensions, no 3rd party tray apps etc. Feels like a Windows thing to me. Windows default programs, file associations, etc have been a shambles since Adam was a boy. It doesn't bother me, so I won't spend any more time on it

But, PM me if you want me to try anything, you too carmenchu.

BR

[DiapDealer]

There have been several known file association bugs in Windows 10 1803 and 1809. After changing them, they wouldn't seem to "take."

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

That's exactly what I've been doing to test this, and neither the plugin's zip nor the jpg get added to the mru when I do it. Tested it on 3 different Windows 10 systems and one Windows 7 system now. And neither have affected the Open With list for either extension.

It's not Sigil doing it. It something on your systems.

On my Windows systems, files I open from within Sigil show on the MRU list. This happens with my laptop, in a VM running an Insider Preview release and in a VM running Windows 7.

Recently, I was adding 3 episodes in Ilona Andrew's Ryder blog posts story and the MRU now shows Ryder Part 5.html, Ryder Part 6.html and Ryder Part 7.html at the top of the list. Though it was not showing the 3 .jpg images I imported when the HTML was pointing to the web for those images. As another test, I added the Borkify plugin after clearing the jump list and it showed when I right clicked on Sigil in the start menu or the taskbar icon.

I would say this is expected behaviour since Windows is showing the files most recently used by Sigil. This is nothing to do with file associations. I used Notepad++ to open a .PNG file and it showed in it's MRU, ditto when I used Sigil's add existing file to add an .uxz file (landed in Misc, BTW).

[DiapDealer]

But there HAS to be some sort of Windows setting that affects what show up in the list. How else to explain that after opening html files, using Add Existing to add jpg|png|gif files, adding plugins (zip files), I still don't see anything BUT .epubs in the Windows MRU list for Sigil?

I would be more than happy to say it's expected Windows behavior except for one nagging thing: it doesn't happen on any of my systems (3 Win10 and 1 Win7). I'm trying my damndest to get ANYTHING other than epub show up in the list, and I can't! I'm using Sigil to try and open every file-type under the sun and the only things that get added are epubs I've recently opened.

And why does adding a jpeg file to an epub in Sigil add Sigil to the Windows Open With list for jpgs for BetterRed, when it does nothing of the sort for me? Same for adding plugins (.zips)?

Something obvious has to being missed here! Otherwise the different behaviors being experienced just don't make sense.