Does Sigil need an epub e-reader component? - Page 3

Thasaidon · 11-21-2019, 05:19 AM

Just a thought that I am sure will get shot down in flames for good reason.

Would it be possible and useful to add an "open with" funcrion. This should allow an epub that is open is Sigil to be concurrently opened in a book reader (Calubre, Moon etc.) Addittopnally it could also allow graphic files to be opened edited and saved back into the epub.

I'll go and get me parachute.

DiapDealer · 11-21-2019, 06:17 AM

There's no option to open in an external epub reader, but that latter part of your suggestion is already possible. Multiple external editors can already be defined to open/edit/save the files of an open epub (image files included) with external programs. It's even called the "Open With" feature.

Thasaidon · 11-22-2019, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

There's no option to open in an external epub reader, but that latter part of your suggestion is already possible. Multiple external editors can already be defined to open/edit/save the files of an open epub (image files included) with external programs. It's even called the "Open With" feature.

Thanks DiapDealer

I thought I had looked everywhere as it is not an option I use, but I vaguely remembered reading an "open with" option in Sigil. Off course as soon as you mentioned it I found it straight away.

This just leaves the question as to whether it would be too much work or too difficult to enhance "open with" 's functionality to allow the open eBook to opened in a user defined eBook reader? Or is it a bad idea?

Doitsu · 11-22-2019, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Thasaidon

This just leaves the question as to whether it would be too much work or too difficult to enhance "open with" 's functionality to allow the open eBook to opened in a user defined eBook reader? Or is it a bad idea?

BTW, if you set up Sigil to use PageEdit as the default XHMTL editor and double-click the .opf file, before opening PageEdit, you can use PageEdit as an eBook Reader with search functionality.

Thasaidon · 11-22-2019, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Doitsu

BTW, if you set up Sigil to use PageEdit as the default XHMTL editor and double-click the .opf file, before opening PageEdit, you can use PageEdit as an eBook Reader with search functionality.

I use this facility for doing a last visual check of an eBook after I have finished editing it in Sigil. I usually find a few bits of formatting I have missed.

It does
all I want it to do.

It was just that in other posts some people seemed to think it was inadequate as a reader and seemed to want a bespoke reader just for Sigil. That is why I made my made my suggestion. Personally it is most unlikely I would need or use it if Pageedit and/or Preview remain available.

It at least gives Kevin and Diap the opportunity to say "It aint gonna happen", or at some future time to say "perhaps that bad idea has some merit in the light of..."

DiapDealer · 11-22-2019, 06:19 AM

I'm sure my memory is somehow playing tricks on me, but I seem to have a vague recollection of once being able to view the epub I was editing (with Sigil) in Adobe Digital Editions. Can anyone confirm whether this was a real memory or not?

democrite · 12-16-2019, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

… an ebook viewer written by the Sigil developers who we already trust.

Indeed that is one of the main things. The Sigil developers are truly responsive, and indeed I trust them, truly enjoy making comments and suggestions, and chatting with them here. Such is not the case with some others. And if one looks around, I am not the only one that feels as such.

BetterRed · 03-03-2020, 05:27 PM

I've changed my stance on this issue somewhat. That's because I hadn't realised how much I used the MS Edge EPUB viewer until MS took it away Ψ³

What did I like about it - very fast to load an epub -- and in no particular order and incomplete: not a librarian, just an epub viewer, TTS, annotations and highlighting, elegant (IMO) user interface, fairly decent search, features to assist language learning (don't know if it did non-English), IIRC that included: syllable break down, spell checking, dictionary lookup, and lightweight grammar checking.

I didn't really like the fact it was embedded within a full blown web browser, but it did mean I could view multiple epubs in a tabbed interface. I don't use Edge as a web browser very often so this wasn't a serious issue for me.

So, if Kevin wants a model for developing an epub reader, I'm saying the Edge viewer had all the features I want, and just as importantly none of those I don't want

Some say the reason they pulled the plug on ePubs in Edge was that it was too hard to implement what they did under the webkit-like Chakra layout engine under the Blink layout engine. Is that an echo of PageEdit I hear.

If a Sigil Viewer were developed I wouldn't object if it didn't use Qt

BR

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11-21-2019, 05:19 AM	#31
Thasaidon Hedge Wizard Posts: 802 Karma: 19999999 Join Date: May 2011 Location: UK/Philippines Device: Kobo Touch, Nook Simple	Just a thought that I am sure will get shot down in flames for good reason. Would it be possible and useful to add an "open with" funcrion. This should allow an epub that is open is Sigil to be concurrently opened in a book reader (Calubre, Moon etc.) Addittopnally it could also allow graphic files to be opened edited and saved back into the epub. I'll go and get me parachute.

11-21-2019, 06:17 AM	#32
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,341 Karma: 203719646 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	There's no option to open in an external epub reader, but that latter part of your suggestion is already possible. Multiple external editors can already be defined to open/edit/save the files of an open epub (image files included) with external programs. It's even called the "Open With" feature.

11-22-2019, 06:19 AM	#36
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,341 Karma: 203719646 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I'm sure my memory is somehow playing tricks on me, but I seem to have a vague recollection of once being able to view the epub I was editing (with Sigil) in Adobe Digital Editions. Can anyone confirm whether this was a real memory or not?

03-03-2020, 05:27 PM	#38
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 21,611 Karma: 29710338 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	I've changed my stance on this issue somewhat. That's because I hadn't realised how much I used the MS Edge EPUB viewer until MS took it away Ψ³ What did I like about it - very fast to load an epub -- and in no particular order and incomplete: not a librarian, just an epub viewer, TTS, annotations and highlighting, elegant (IMO) user interface, fairly decent search, features to assist language learning (don't know if it did non-English), IIRC that included: syllable break down, spell checking, dictionary lookup, and lightweight grammar checking. I didn't really like the fact it was embedded within a full blown web browser, but it did mean I could view multiple epubs in a tabbed interface. I don't use Edge as a web browser very often so this wasn't a serious issue for me. So, if Kevin wants a model for developing an epub reader, I'm saying the Edge viewer had all the features I want, and just as importantly none of those I don't want Some say the reason they pulled the plug on ePubs in Edge was that it was too hard to implement what they did under the webkit-like Chakra layout engine under the Blink layout engine. Is that an echo of PageEdit I hear. If a Sigil Viewer were developed I wouldn't object if it didn't use Qt BR