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Old 01-01-2020, 05:27 PM   #76
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That's basically what they are doing. Ebooks track the current paper price, be it hard back or mass market paperback.
Uncompromising Honor - Kindle $5.99, Mass Market Paperback $5.99.
Silence Fallen (previous Mercy Thompson book) Kindle - $7.99, Mass Market paper $7.57.

In my country, the paperback of the first of these is 50% dearer than the ebook, the paperback of the second, 10% cheaper. Go figure.
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I wonder if anyone in the publishing business has considered selling eBook novels for $15 (or whatever the current price is) until the paperback version came out and then dropping that eBook to $10. Then those who wanted the book early (as they used to with hardbacks) could pay the higher price and those who traditionally waited for the paperback book's release could pay a "paperback" weighted price for the eBook.
They already do that. I bought Stephen King's The Outsider new for $15. Now the same ebook costs $11.99 (a dollar more than the mass market paperback, so now folks can complain ebooks cost too much).
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In my country, the paperback of the first of these is 50% dearer than the ebook, the paperback of the second, 10% cheaper. Go figure.
Stupid question, "dearer" means "more expensive"?
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Stupid question, "dearer" means "more expensive"?
I've heard it said that the only stupid questions are the ones unasked. And, yes.
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I've heard it said that the only stupid questions are the ones unasked. And, yes.
Probably because the usual response on being told the price is 'Oh, dear...'
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Probably because the usual response on being told the price is 'Oh, dear...'
It's probably a "false friend", but I've long assumed there was a connection between the English "dear" in the sense of "expensive" with the German "teuer"
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It's probably a "false friend", but I've long assumed there was a connection between the English "dear" in the sense of "expensive" with the German "teuer"
According to OED, you are correct - Old English - Diore, Deore = Old High German tiuro, Middle High German - Tiure, German - teuer.

The spelling start at Diore in 1000 AD, drifting to dere in 1374 (Chaucer), to deere by 1600 eventually becoming dear by 1774.
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And more clearly, Middle Dutch dier(e) (pronounced roughly the same as dear), although in Modern Dutch it's almost only duur, meaning expensive. Also note that if you read Old English it'll probably say something like deor(e), dier(e) or dyr(e).

But dierbaar is still Dutch for dear.

In English you can say something cost you dearly, although I don't think monetary price is quite what's meant there. ;-)
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According to OED, you are correct - Old English - Diore, Deore = Old High German tiuro, Middle High German - Tiure, German - teuer.

The spelling start at Diore in 1000 AD, drifting to dere in 1374 (Chaucer), to deere by 1600 eventually becoming dear by 1774.
Hardly surprising since English and German (if I recall properly) had a common ancestry. And other Scandinavian languages added to it via the vikings etc. I would imagine. I understand even in the last few centuries it has changed a lot. There are jokes written into Shakespeare for example that modern readers/playgoers don't get because of the consonant shift as well.
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But dierbaar is still Dutch for dear.

In Engilsh you can say something cost you dearly, although I don't monetary price is quite what's meant there. ;-)
Probably not, no . Much like 'dierbaar' is 'dear' in the same sense as 'that is dear to me'. Not in a monetary, but an emotional sense.
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Sorry for the diversion, but it was surprising to me to discover that "dear" for "expensive", which is ubiquitous in my community, is apparently rather less common elsewhere.
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Sorry for the diversion, but it was surprising to me to discover that "dear" for "expensive", which is ubiquitous in my community, is apparently rather less common elsewhere.
Are you somewhere where the English spoken is closer to, say, British English than American English?
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Are you somewhere where the English spoken is closer to, say, British English than American English?
Indeed.
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Sorry for the diversion, but it was surprising to me to discover that "dear" for "expensive", which is ubiquitous in my community, is apparently rather less common elsewhere.
I've hear the term used in that manner quite a few times.
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Are you somewhere where the English spoken is closer to, say, British English than American English?
Surely most American English speakers are familiar with When I'm 64.
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