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|  12-17-2019, 07:48 PM | #61 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,017 Karma: 19767610 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia Canada Device: ipad,  Kindle PW, Kobo Clara; iphone 7 | |
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|  12-17-2019, 08:31 PM | #62 | 
| Snoozing in the sun            Posts: 10,146 Karma: 115423645 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Melbourne, Australia Device: iPad Mini, Kobo Touch | 
			
			I see Bendrix as a mix of good and bad.  As Victoria has said, we learn through Sarah's diary that he had been injured trying to protect another person from a falling wall.  He is a bully in his dealings with her, but was probably bullied as a child because of his limp.  He had worked as an air raid warden - possibly how he had received the injury to his shoulder.
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|  12-17-2019, 09:05 PM | #63 | 
| Snoozing in the sun            Posts: 10,146 Karma: 115423645 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Melbourne, Australia Device: iPad Mini, Kobo Touch | 
			
			On Sarah: perhaps saying a subconscious wish to commit suicide was too strong.  But I think she was so wretched that she really didn't care whether she lived or died, and so went out into the rain to avoid Bendrix, which someone with a livelier sense of self-preservation wouldn't have done.   But then she would have got the doctor in sooner too if she wanted to survive. The doctor was quoted as saying that he could have saved her with penicillin if he had been called in a week earlier. She knew she was ill, but was indifferent to her fate. | 
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|  12-17-2019, 10:18 PM | #64 | ||
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|  12-17-2019, 10:47 PM | #65 | 
| Snoozing in the sun            Posts: 10,146 Karma: 115423645 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Melbourne, Australia Device: iPad Mini, Kobo Touch | 
			
			I'm starting to feel sorry for Bendrix!  He could have avoided being an air raid warden, pleading his lameness.  On the other hand, it was a good opportunity for him to order people about perhaps!   (I am reminded of the bossy and officious warden in "Dad's Army" - a somewhat incongruous comparison I know, but just considering the potential for making him feel in a position of authority, which he may never have had before.) I read Bendrix as having very low self-esteem, perhaps because of his physical disability and what that might have done to him in the brutal world of the schoolyard. People who are well-balanced and have a healthy self-esteem don't eat themselves up in hating other people. They may be angry or hurt or otherwise upset by another person, but then they get over it. | 
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|  12-17-2019, 11:40 PM | #66 | 
| cacoethes scribendi            Posts: 5,818 Karma: 137770742 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura One & H2Ov2, Sony PRS-650 | 
			
			We might console ourselves, perhaps, that maybe Bendrix was a perfectly pleasant and reasonable chap until the wall fell on him, leaving him with a scar on his shoulder and a brain injury affecting his mood.  Such things can happen.
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|  12-18-2019, 10:18 AM | #67 | ||
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|  12-18-2019, 10:46 AM | #68 | ||
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|  12-18-2019, 04:29 PM | #69 | 
| Snoozing in the sun            Posts: 10,146 Karma: 115423645 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Melbourne, Australia Device: iPad Mini, Kobo Touch | 
			
			That is a sad paragraph.  I suppose one could say that he lives in a room in a boarding house because he’s a writer, which rarely makes people very well off.  However, he had a book turned into a film, which should have brought in some money, and presumably means he was reasonably well known and successful.  And he can afford to eat out at restaurants with Sarah, so he isn’t broke.
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|  12-18-2019, 06:43 PM | #70 | 
| o saeclum infacetum            Posts: 21,512 Karma: 236076651 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New England Device: Mini, H2O, Glo HD, Aura One, PW4, PW5 | 
			
			I remember being struck by this quotation at the time, and it smacks of ex post justification to me, or Maurice's trying to put a spin of sorts on a dreary situation.  It does contrast with Henry and Sarah's situation, a freehold house with lots of room, which could be an implied reason behind Sarah's marriage in the first place.  What were her options?
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|  12-18-2019, 06:55 PM | #71 | 
| cacoethes scribendi            Posts: 5,818 Karma: 137770742 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura One & H2Ov2, Sony PRS-650 | 
			
			That line of thought matches what I was thinking about Sarah's grasping mother - that perhaps this (along with Sarah not remembering being attracted to Henry) is all set up to hint that Sarah's match to Henry was based mostly (from Sarah's side) on Henry's secure economic situation.
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|  12-18-2019, 09:27 PM | #72 | 
| Snoozing in the sun            Posts: 10,146 Karma: 115423645 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Melbourne, Australia Device: iPad Mini, Kobo Touch | 
			
			I think it could well have been.  It would also be an escape from her mother and the endless round of men (all mean), some of whom might have been getting interested in Sarah as she grew up and became so beautiful.  Henry at least would provide some stability in her life.
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|  12-19-2019, 04:49 PM | #73 | 
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|  12-20-2019, 12:38 AM | #74 | 
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			I have been re-reading parts of the book. I was looking at the organizational structure of the book, and he seems to emphasize his points at the beginning and end of the different parts. The diary section was especially interesting because it comes full circle by having a repetitious beginning/end. These are the types of things that you don't notice when you are listening to a book.
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|  12-20-2019, 10:03 AM | #75 | 
| cacoethes scribendi            Posts: 5,818 Karma: 137770742 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura One & H2Ov2, Sony PRS-650 | 
			
			Oh, I noticed the repetition all right   , I just didn't like it.  It feels like a beginner's mistake.  Of course, Greene is no beginner by this time so we know the repetition is intentional, but - for me - it still reads like a poorly edited YA romance. There is a really good chance that my reaction might be because it touches on two subjects I find particularly contentious: adultery and religion. I sort of like the idea of combining the two, but for a different reason to Greene, so I was probably never going to like this. | 
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