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Old 03-13-2009, 02:09 PM   #226
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I've only had my Kindle2 for a week and a half now. I bought it so I could get books from the public library here. We're relocating to Europe this summer and wanted to continue to read the library books for free. I didn't intend to purchase many books (but for the ones I did, I planned to get them from Amazon). I prefer using the library - I have for years with the pbooks and wanted to continue with ebooks.

Now, I need to figure out if I should keep the Kindle2 and worry about what Amazon will do next or if I should return it and get a different reader that I can use in Europe (don't need the wireless or text options as far as I know - I'm happy to transfer using USB/computer) with the library books....

I was so excited to get the Kindle2........
If you are planning to stay in Europe, I would think you would be better off with a reader that is more suited to that area.

And remember............there are tons of free books out there (and here) that you don't need any special reader for.

Good luck with your decision.
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:10 PM   #227
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I'm sensing a sales bump for Cybook coming.
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:11 PM   #228
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the sony can also read library books.
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:12 PM   #229
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I'm sensing a sales bump for Cybook coming.
There are a lot of new interesting readers on the horizon, but if I were replacing my Kindle right now, that's probably what I'd get. A lot of my decision as to whether is Amazon is more evil than any other DRMed content provider hinges on whether they start snooping on Kindles and busting people for non-Amazon commercial content.
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:13 PM   #230
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New Amazon.com advertising....

When you buy a Kindle, you get Big Brother for free.
Orwell's work is still in copyright in the United States.
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:37 PM   #231
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And? You know companies can pay for a book and give away for free when selling something else.
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:55 PM   #232
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And? You know companies can pay for a book and give away for free when selling something else.
Not that they do that much...
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:56 PM   #233
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Not that they do that much...
...or they do it with a book no one wants ...
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Old 03-13-2009, 03:06 PM   #234
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...or they do it with a book no one wants ...
I don't think they will be doing that anytime soon, not even with Battlefield Earth......
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Old 03-13-2009, 03:06 PM   #235
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So basically the message I am getting from Amazon is....
You bought a Kindle, now we own your *ss.
I am stunned - guess I am naive. Amazon is preventing its customers from shopping elsewhere. When my kindle 1 gives up the ghost, I will be thinking long and hard before I lock myself in with another ebook reader. I was only using the PID on Mobi anyway! Doesn't it all go to the same place?
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Old 03-13-2009, 03:17 PM   #236
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I am stunned - guess I am naive. Amazon is preventing its customers from shopping elsewhere. When my kindle 1 gives up the ghost, I will be thinking long and hard before I lock myself in with another ebook reader. I was only using the PID on Mobi anyway! Doesn't it all go to the same place?
If they could theoretically keep people from finding and using Kindlepid, that wouldn't prevent them from using other tools to strip the DRM off of books purchased elsewhere. You have access to the PID in your Mobipocket software. You can just use that to strip DRM and read the books. So far none of us have been busted for it (which doesn't mean we won't be of course). I think they'd be foolish to start snooping on our Kindles. It would be a publicity firestorm.

Kindlepid does let people with iPhones get their PIDs and that's what's used to encrypt the books they buy at Amazon. I think this is more about keeping iPhone users from liberating their Amazon books than keeping Kindle owners from putting their own books on. I think that is too small a blip to worry about given the bad publicity it would give them. Most Kindle owners probably buy almost all their content at Amazon. iPhone users putting their deDRMed books on the pirate interwebs is a far bigger threat. I think there's a much larger population of folks out there with jailbroken iPhones that are inclined to do that than there are Kindle owners. I think they also hope that many iPhone owners will eventually want a reading device. They want them to buy Kindles rather than one of the competing readers. If they can liberate their books, they might not go for the Kindle regardless of the nifty whispersync thingie.
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Old 03-13-2009, 03:30 PM   #237
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I am stunned - guess I am naive. Amazon is preventing its customers from shopping elsewhere. When my kindle 1 gives up the ghost, I will be thinking long and hard before I lock myself in with another ebook reader. I was only using the PID on Mobi anyway! Doesn't it all go to the same place?
There is actually a very good reason for Amazon to do this. I think that sooner or later they will change the awz format so it is not compatible with MobiPocket anymore. If a lot of customers have used a workaround to read DRM:ed MobiPocket books they will get a lot of complaints and they want to avoild this.

Amazon does not use the MobiPocket format for DRM:ed books. Currently the format they use happens to be compatible (or nearly identicla) with MobiPocket but that can change anytime.
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Sony wasn’t the one that distributed CDs loaded with trojans (not condoms, the other kind)?

...snip...
I'm guessing you missed the whole Sony Rootkit dibacle?
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I am guessing you missed the irony
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This is actually something that is worrying. Will the concept of a specific edition of a book survive? Suppose a book is published and you buy it and it contains some words that leads to protests. Can then a new release be made and Amazon just silently replacing the book? I suppose there is an interest with certain organizations to be able to do these kind of things.

To me it seems that we need some sort of checksum so we can check that our books are the editions we expect them to be.
Wouldn't the checksum have to run on the kindel though ?
So the new update could still compute the same checksum even with a modified version of the book
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