Kindle firmware 5.13.0.5 (for Kids Edition)

jhowell · 11-24-2019, 04:06 AM

The Kindle E-Reader Software Updates page is showing version 5.13.0.5 for the Kindle (10th Generation) Kids Edition. This is a new model released at the end of October.

There is no download link. It instead says:

Quote:

Do not install Kindle (10th Generation) software updates for your Kindle Kids Edition. Software updates automatically download and install on your Kindle when connected wirelessly.

I wonder whether allowing only online updates is going to be a new thing for Kindles going forward or if this is a special case.

Quoth · 11-24-2019, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhowell

I wonder whether allowing only online updates is going to be a new thing for Kindles going forward or if this is a special case.

If so it's stupid. I know people that had to get the guy in Currys to register the Kindle because they don't know how to work the WiFi.

Also not everyone even has WiFi!

You can use our libraries' WiFi on a Laptop, but it doesn't work on a kindle.

I'd also stop buying eBooks from Amazon if they disabled the "download to PC and transfer via USB option."

Seems idiotic on many levels. WiFi or Mobile (some models) automatic update should only be an option; you should be able to decline, accept or use PC download.

patrickt · 11-24-2019, 07:01 PM

I have about sixty WiFi names and passwords for places I frequent and only one has a system that prevents a Kindle from connecting. They're all free and my cell phone connects automatically when I walk in.

binaryhermit · 11-24-2019, 07:13 PM

I've never experience a wifi that my kindle won't connect to except for one at a local grocery store that seems to only broadcast on 5 GHz.

And given that I have unlimited "5mbps" tethering on my phone plan...
(That said, you might have to manually open the browser and click through an invalid certificate error or in some cases use something like neverssl.com to trigger the captive portal)

rcentros · 11-24-2019, 07:51 PM

Maybe the newest software has some kind of "value-added" feature that they don't want you to be able to add to the non-children's version without paying for the right edition?

binaryhermit · 11-24-2019, 08:20 PM

I suspect it's locked down for reasons of parental control.

IIRC the Kindle Kids doesn't support sideloaded content?

EDIT: Apparently that's only on child profiles?

j.p.s · 11-24-2019, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binaryhermit

I suspect it's locked down for reasons of parental control.

IIRC the Kindle Kids doesn't support sideloaded content?

EDIT: Apparently that's only on child profiles?

Seems plausible.

Also, maybe they don't want kids to be able to update to a non-kids firmware.

dex87 · 11-25-2019, 02:21 AM

What's new?!

jhowell · 11-25-2019, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dex87

What's new?!

Amazon no longer provides a description of changes on the Kindle E-Reader Software Updates page.

Because this new firmware cannot be downloaded it isn't possible to take a look. We will have to wait until someone receives it and reports.

rcentros · 11-25-2019, 02:58 PM

eBook Reader doesn't have answers either but he has some guesses as to why...

https://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...ally-updating/

SeaBookGuy · 11-26-2019, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrustratedReader

If so it's stupid. I know people that had to get the guy in Currys to register the Kindle because they don't know how to work the WiFi.

Also not everyone even has WiFi!

You can use our libraries' WiFi on a Laptop, but it doesn't work on a kindle.

I'd also stop buying eBooks from Amazon if they disabled the "download to PC and transfer via USB option."

Seems idiotic on many levels. WiFi or Mobile (some models) automatic update should only be an option; you should be able to decline, accept or use PC download.

Hilton hotel chain (any brand) wifi is incompatible with Kindle as well.

BookCat · 11-26-2019, 06:16 PM

I hope they're not going to get rid of the 'transfer via usb' option. If they do, I won't be able to buy another book from Amazon! They would also lose my, "while I'm here, I'll just have a look at . . " sales.

I don't have wifi. I don't have a smart phone. My moby is dumb and can only text and call - by choice. I just HATE the way everyone is buried in a device while out. I gently ask friends to switch their phones off, or put them away, apart from one who has family emergencies.

If I really needed to buy an ebook from Amazon, I would have to annoy one of my friends across the road. I imagine I'll become very unpopular!

So let's hope this is specific to this firmware upgrade.

jhowell · 11-26-2019, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binaryhermit

I suspect it's locked down for reasons of parental control.

IIRC the Kindle Kids doesn't support sideloaded content?

EDIT: Apparently that's only on child profiles?

If it doesn’t allow side loaded books does Amazon also disable the Download and Transfer via USB function for that model?

jhowell · 12-07-2019, 08:43 AM

The version number for the Kid's Edition firmware on the Kindle E-Reader Software Updates page has been bumped slightly from 5.13.0.5 to 5.13.0.8. There is still no download link and it still has the same note that updates will be installed automatically.

Hopefully this new software delivery approach will continue to apply only to this one Kindle model.

jhowell · 12-13-2019, 08:34 AM

Kindle E-Reader Software Updates page shows the version of the Kids Edition firmware bumped again from 5.13.0.8 to 5.13.0.9. It's odd that there are these frequent incremental bumps to this firmware.

Does anyone own one of these devices?

If so is Amazon pushing these updates out to you?

11-24-2019, 08:20 PM	#6
binaryhermit Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,732 Karma: 20469902 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Lockport, IL Device: Kindle PW4, Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition	I suspect it's locked down for reasons of parental control. IIRC the Kindle Kids doesn't support sideloaded content? EDIT: Apparently that's only on child profiles? Last edited by binaryhermit; 11-24-2019 at 08:24 PM.

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11-24-2019, 07:01 PM	#3
patrickt Wizard Posts: 1,221 Karma: 8381518 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oaxaca, Mexico Device: Paperwhite 4 X 2	I have about sixty WiFi names and passwords for places I frequent and only one has a system that prevents a Kindle from connecting. They're all free and my cell phone connects automatically when I walk in.

11-24-2019, 07:13 PM	#4
binaryhermit Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,732 Karma: 20469902 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Lockport, IL Device: Kindle PW4, Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition	I've never experience a wifi that my kindle won't connect to except for one at a local grocery store that seems to only broadcast on 5 GHz. And given that I have unlimited "5mbps" tethering on my phone plan... (That said, you might have to manually open the browser and click through an invalid certificate error or in some cases use something like neverssl.com to trigger the captive portal)

11-24-2019, 07:51 PM	#5
rcentros eReader Wrangler Posts: 7,888 Karma: 52039845 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Boise, ID Device: PB HD3, GL3, Tolino Vision 4, Voyage, Clara HD	Maybe the newest software has some kind of "value-added" feature that they don't want you to be able to add to the non-children's version without paying for the right edition?

11-25-2019, 02:21 AM	#8
dex87 Member Posts: 14 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2018 Device: Kindle	What's new?!

11-25-2019, 02:58 PM	#10
rcentros eReader Wrangler Posts: 7,888 Karma: 52039845 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Boise, ID Device: PB HD3, GL3, Tolino Vision 4, Voyage, Clara HD	eBook Reader doesn't have answers either but he has some guesses as to why... https://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...ally-updating/

11-26-2019, 06:16 PM	#12
BookCat C L J Posts: 2,911 Karma: 21115458 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Birmingham UK Device: Sony e-reader 505, Kindle PW2, Kindle PW3, Kobo Libra2	I hope they're not going to get rid of the 'transfer via usb' option. If they do, I won't be able to buy another book from Amazon! They would also lose my, "while I'm here, I'll just have a look at . . " sales. I don't have wifi. I don't have a smart phone. My moby is dumb and can only text and call - by choice. I just HATE the way everyone is buried in a device while out. I gently ask friends to switch their phones off, or put them away, apart from one who has family emergencies. If I really needed to buy an ebook from Amazon, I would have to annoy one of my friends across the road. I imagine I'll become very unpopular! So let's hope this is specific to this firmware upgrade.

12-07-2019, 08:43 AM	#14
jhowell Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,073 Karma: 91577715 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Charlottesville, VA Device: Kindles	The version number for the Kid's Edition firmware on the Kindle E-Reader Software Updates page has been bumped slightly from 5.13.0.5 to 5.13.0.8. There is still no download link and it still has the same note that updates will be installed automatically. Hopefully this new software delivery approach will continue to apply only to this one Kindle model.

12-13-2019, 08:34 AM	#15
jhowell Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,073 Karma: 91577715 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Charlottesville, VA Device: Kindles	Kindle E-Reader Software Updates page shows the version of the Kids Edition firmware bumped again from 5.13.0.8 to 5.13.0.9. It's odd that there are these frequent incremental bumps to this firmware. Does anyone own one of these devices? If so is Amazon pushing these updates out to you?