SSH and USBNetworking

e-book-boy · 10-27-2019, 07:32 PM

IM BACK! my problem with it being bricked had been solved. But now that i have gotten to a beginners intermediate, i wanted to try SSH and usbnetworking. I have kite installed and it works but when i follow the docs here: https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Kin...USB_Networking
and i get stuck on :"Find the Local Area Connection # with small text "Unidentified Network, RNDIS/Ethernet Gadget" I dont see that. if anyone could be so kind to help me and also give me some apps to download for kite that would be great.

mergen3107 · 10-27-2019, 08:11 PM

You need to go to Network and Internet settings. Then go to Network and Adapter settings (at the bottom). Then on the left go to Change Adapter settings. There will be a few PCs, which represent individual connections. When you connect Kindle in USBnetwork mode, you’ll see the right one right away.

e-book-boy · 10-27-2019, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mergen3107

You need to go to Network and Internet settings. Then go to Network and Adapter settings (at the bottom). Then on the left go to Change Adapter settings. There will be a few PCs, which represent individual connections. When you connect Kindle in USBnetwork mode, you’ll see the right one right away.

i only see 2 PCs but i have 3 and my kindle is not coming up. ALSO when i click usbnet on my home-screen it acts like its plugged but its not and if i put my kindle into sleep then wake it shows "if you want to use your kindle, plug it out of the usb. (kindle not charging)"

mergen3107 · 10-27-2019, 08:36 PM

What you see if you hit Status in he USBN menu?

NiLuJe · 10-27-2019, 08:36 PM

You're either using a very (very) old USBNet hack, or you mangled the config (if you're seeing the USBMS screen, the device isn't in USBNet mode), or you mangled the toggle.

Toggle via KUAL, it'll warn appropriately about what will and will not behave properly as far as doing it while the device is plugged in (generally, you'll want to toggle USBNet with the device unplugged).

mergen3107 · 10-27-2019, 08:37 PM

USBN button works as toggle. So if you tap it once it will turn USBN on, if you hit again — off.

e-book-boy · 10-27-2019, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mergen3107

What you see if you hit Status in he USBN menu?

what on earth is a USBN menu all i see is please plug your usb device out

NiLuJe · 10-27-2019, 08:40 PM

Read The Fine Manual.

(As well as any and all relevant READMEs inside the packages).

e-book-boy · 10-27-2019, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

You're either using a very (very) old USBNet hack, or you mangled the config (if you're seeing the USBMS screen, the device isn't in USBNet mode), or you mangled the toggle.

Toggle via KUAL, it'll warn appropriately about what will and will not behave properly as far as doing it while the device is plugged in (generally, you'll want to toggle USBNet with the device unplugged).

im using the usbn hack from kite b/c KUAL seemed daunting

NiLuJe · 10-27-2019, 08:42 PM

Then you're on your own.

(It's as simple as that. I've posted various rants on the subject of supporting USBNet over the years, because I take a very specific stance on the subject (i.e., "Trash In, Trash Out"). If you can't figure it out, you shouldn't be using it.).

e-book-boy · 10-27-2019, 08:52 PM

ok

as im follow the info on the guidelines u gave me i see kual so do i have to uninstall kite to have it or what?

mergen3107 · 10-27-2019, 09:20 PM

Just use KUAL.

NiLuJe · 10-27-2019, 09:25 PM

Which requires MKK on FW < 5.x. I've just updated the sticky to make that clear, on top of the already prominent mention in KUAL's own doc.

e-book-boy · 10-27-2019, 09:34 PM

ok so im doing it but it says that MRPI needs to be at the top, like literally? im confused and sorry for the troubles

NiLuJe · 10-27-2019, 10:38 PM

The top-level folder, yeah. Also known as the root folder. i.e., E:\ or whatever.

10-27-2019, 07:32 PM	#1
e-book-boy Member Posts: 15 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2019 Device: Kindle 4 (No touch)	SSH and USBNetworking IM BACK! my problem with it being bricked had been solved. But now that i have gotten to a beginners intermediate, i wanted to try SSH and usbnetworking. I have kite installed and it works but when i follow the docs here: https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Kin...USB_Networking and i get stuck on :"Find the Local Area Connection # with small text "Unidentified Network, RNDIS/Ethernet Gadget" I dont see that. if anyone could be so kind to help me and also give me some apps to download for kite that would be great.

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10-27-2019, 08:11 PM	#2
mergen3107 Wizard Posts: 1,506 Karma: 5000046 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cape Canaveral Device: Kindle Scribe	You need to go to Network and Internet settings. Then go to Network and Adapter settings (at the bottom). Then on the left go to Change Adapter settings. There will be a few PCs, which represent individual connections. When you connect Kindle in USBnetwork mode, you’ll see the right one right away.

10-27-2019, 08:36 PM	#4
mergen3107 Wizard Posts: 1,506 Karma: 5000046 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cape Canaveral Device: Kindle Scribe	What you see if you hit Status in he USBN menu?

10-27-2019, 08:36 PM	#5
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	You're either using a very (very) old USBNet hack, or you mangled the config (if you're seeing the USBMS screen, the device isn't in USBNet mode), or you mangled the toggle. Toggle via KUAL, it'll warn appropriately about what will and will not behave properly as far as doing it while the device is plugged in (generally, you'll want to toggle USBNet with the device unplugged).

10-27-2019, 08:37 PM	#6
mergen3107 Wizard Posts: 1,506 Karma: 5000046 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cape Canaveral Device: Kindle Scribe	USBN button works as toggle. So if you tap it once it will turn USBN on, if you hit again — off.

10-27-2019, 08:40 PM	#8
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	Read The Fine Manual. (As well as any and all relevant READMEs inside the packages).

10-27-2019, 08:42 PM	#10
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	Then you're on your own. (It's as simple as that. I've posted various rants on the subject of supporting USBNet over the years, because I take a very specific stance on the subject (i.e., "Trash In, Trash Out"). If you can't figure it out, you shouldn't be using it.).

10-27-2019, 08:52 PM	#11
e-book-boy Member Posts: 15 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2019 Device: Kindle 4 (No touch)	ok as im follow the info on the guidelines u gave me i see kual so do i have to uninstall kite to have it or what?

10-27-2019, 09:20 PM	#12
mergen3107 Wizard Posts: 1,506 Karma: 5000046 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cape Canaveral Device: Kindle Scribe	Just use KUAL.

10-27-2019, 09:25 PM	#13
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	Which requires MKK on FW < 5.x. I've just updated the sticky to make that clear, on top of the already prominent mention in KUAL's own doc.

10-27-2019, 09:34 PM	#14
e-book-boy Member Posts: 15 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2019 Device: Kindle 4 (No touch)	ok so im doing it but it says that MRPI needs to be at the top, like literally? im confused and sorry for the troubles

10-27-2019, 10:38 PM	#15
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	The top-level folder, yeah. Also known as the root folder. i.e., E:\ or whatever.