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Old 03-11-2009, 06:06 PM   #16
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That's actually true.
In the Sherlock Holmes story they gave the guy brandy. They just should have pee'd on the guy I guess.

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Old 03-11-2009, 06:09 PM   #17
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Urine is not "insanitary". It's entirely sterile, in fact. It used to be used to clean wounds prior to the invention of antiseptics.

Of course, there may be other reasons why one would not wish to have a urine-soaked book (warping due to the liquid, or the smell of it) but "sanitation" is certainly not an issue.
I've examined a lot of urine samples in my day, but even the cleanest catches have some bacteria in them. Urine is not, repeat, not "sterile." Even the healthiest person is going to have the odd E-coli in their urinary tract, as well as some other non-pathogenic flora and fauna.

Moldy bread was also used as a poultice before the invention of antiseptics. That doesn't mean that moldy bread is sterile ... it just means that it has antiseptic properties.

Urine is generally fairly acidic in pH, and the more acidic the urine, the more it behaves as an antiseptic. I know that the urine on a jellyfish sting is considered to be an old wives tale that some studies have disproved, but other studies support .... but then, moldy bread was out there in old wive's tale land until someone discovered penicillin.

I've been on the beach, and I've been stung. And, yup ... a friend peed on my foot. And, it did feel better ... so who knows?? But, I'll guarantee you it wasn't because my friend's pee was sterile.
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Old 03-11-2009, 06:59 PM   #18
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In the Sherlock Holmes story they gave the guy brandy. They just should have pee'd on the guy I guess.

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When I took a tour of Pompey they pointed out that the public laundry was right beside the public restrooms as the ammonia was used to clean the clothes.

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Old 03-11-2009, 07:39 PM   #19
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Urine is not "insanitary". It's entirely sterile, in fact. It used to be used to clean wounds prior to the invention of antiseptics.

Of course, there may be other reasons why one would not wish to have a urine-soaked book (warping due to the liquid, or the smell of it) but "sanitation" is certainly not an issue.
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When I took a tour of Pompey they pointed out that the public laundry was right beside the public restrooms as the ammonia was used to clean the clothes.

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I've been to Pompei. Interesting place .... but yes, chemicals in urine and even fecal chemicals can be pretty damn handy. There's a reason that people have been using excrement to replenish nutrients in soil for centuries. Mainly ... it works.

Really .... aside from the fact that they smell a bit nasty, and there are strong cultural prohibitions from being around them, both urine and feces, whether human or animal, are just a bunch of chemicals and bacteria. I can't tell you how many times I've been covered in both (I've been around more than one centrifuge explosion in my life), and .... well, you get over it.

Oh man .... I just remembered about the patient that we got, I think it was at UCLA, this would have been close to 30 years ago, but the poor girl kept having these awful E-coli infections of her sinuses. It turned out that she slept in the nude and in her sleep she was scratching her butt and then picking her nose.

I felt so sorry for her. The only thing we could suggest in the end was that she sleep in pants with a belt tight enough that she couldn't get her hands down where the E-coli tend to hang out.
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:12 PM   #20
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LOL at this thread. And yea, DRM sucks.
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:19 PM   #21
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Yes unfortunately the publishers would never go for it. They hate readers re-selling or trading their books, they want everyone to buy new books ... :S
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Old 03-12-2009, 05:13 AM   #22
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I've examined a lot of urine samples in my day, but even the cleanest catches have some bacteria in them. Urine is not, repeat, not "sterile." Even the healthiest person is going to have the odd E-coli in their urinary tract, as well as some other non-pathogenic flora and fauna.

Moldy bread was also used as a poultice before the invention of antiseptics. That doesn't mean that moldy bread is sterile ... it just means that it has antiseptic properties.

Urine is generally fairly acidic in pH, and the more acidic the urine, the more it behaves as an antiseptic. I know that the urine on a jellyfish sting is considered to be an old wives tale that some studies have disproved, but other studies support .... but then, moldy bread was out there in old wive's tale land until someone discovered penicillin.

I've been on the beach, and I've been stung. And, yup ... a friend peed on my foot. And, it did feel better ... so who knows?? But, I'll guarantee you it wasn't because my friend's pee was sterile.
When in Rx school (PharmD) some 25ish years ago, it was taught that the nitrogen, well nitrates, in urine was the key to neutralizing the component of the jellyfish which caused the sting.
Still it is only a quick fix and medical attention is a good idea.
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Old 03-12-2009, 05:31 AM   #23
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I'm losing sight of what this thread is about : LOL : DRM, Amazon, or the amazing properties of urine ....
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Old 03-12-2009, 05:54 AM   #24
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Hey, this is MobileRead. You can safely bet on a thread being sidetracked after a while.
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Old 03-12-2009, 10:46 AM   #25
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I'm losing sight of what this thread is about : LOL : DRM, Amazon, or the amazing properties of urine ....
I have a friend whose mother would put a few drops of his urine in his ear when he had an earache.
And I've known people who would wash their hair with their own urine. Supposedly it makes it nice and shiny.

On topic: I've already gotten rid of most of the books I can bear to part with, so the trade-in wouldn't be a huge bonanza for me, but I could do it occasionally.
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Old 03-12-2009, 11:00 AM   #26
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I've just come up with an idea for Amazon.

Open up the Kindle. Allow it to view Mobipocket with DRM. Then this issue with Kindlepid and Kindlefix won't be an issue.
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Open up the Kindle. Allow it to view Mobipocket with DRM. Then this issue with Kindlepid and Kindlefix won't be an issue.
from your fingers to Amazon's eyes.
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Old 03-13-2009, 03:16 AM   #28
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Back off topic:

When I was a teen and was taking sailing lessons you always used to hear that if you gut stung by a jelly fish someone should pee on it. Not sure if it was true or just a myth.

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its true. Mythbusters tested it i think
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Old 03-15-2009, 09:26 PM   #29
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its true. Mythbusters tested it i think
Well, not always...........read the whole article here.

http://firstaid.about.com/od/bitesst...llyfishPee.htm
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I have a friend whose mother would put a few drops of his urine in his ear when he had an earache.
And I've known people who would wash their hair with their own urine. Supposedly it makes it nice and shiny.

Thats just disgusting!

Vinegar is what people used to rinse their hair with....just a tablespoon in a glass of water to the final rinse....The smell goes away as soon as the hair is dry.
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