Adobe ADEPT DRM for PDF circumvented - Page 13

RickyMaveety · 03-11-2009, 04:50 PM

I eat stuff with cat and dog poop all over my fingers every day. Granted, it's probably just a microscopic amount, but I'm sure it's there and it hasn't killed me yet!!

RickyMaveety · 03-11-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Elfwreck

The takedown notice was indeed lawful.

That doesn't mean the content was illegal, only that the copyright owner(s) believed it infringes on their copyright, and were willing to say so in a way that they can be held legally accountable for.

The way DMCA takedown notices work is,

Copyright owner files complaint with ISP or other provider,
Content is removed for 2 weeks,
Content poster has opportunity to object,
If s/he objects, s/he gives name & address to copyright owner, so that copyright owner can file suit
Copyright owner has two weeks to take legal action, otherwise the content goes back up.

Many people don't object, and their content is just removed. Some don't object because they don't understand how it's supposed to work, and some are actually infringing and got caught, and some don't want to give their name & address to the party on the other end (who does NOT have to reveal legal contact info to the individual, only to the ISP/web host).

A DMCA takedown notice, even a legit one, is not an indication of a crime. It's an announcement that someone *thinks* something illegal has happened. Since copyright infringement is a blurry thing, the illegality has to be determined in court.

And there's supposed to be penalties for malicious misuse of DMCA takedowns, which have not been enforced. (Like when the SFWA told Scribd.com to remove hundreds of science fiction stories, claiming they were infringing on copyrights... including stories released under Creative Commons, and stories by authors who had not authorized the SFWA to legally represent them.)

Here's my question, why is it that the penalties for malicious misuse of DMCA takedowns are not being enforced?? Any one, at any time is allowed to effectively cripple a site on a completely false accusation and there is no recourse??

Please someone explain to me when the US became a haven for witch hunters.

desertgrandma · 03-11-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

I eat stuff with cat and dog poop all over my fingers every day. Granted, it's probably just a microscopic amount, but I'm sure it's there and it hasn't killed me yet!!

ick! ick! ick!!!

(runs and washes hands)

Anyone want a cat? Very lovable with those he loves...........unfortunately he loves no one!

RickyMaveety · 03-11-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by desertgrandma

ick! ick! ick!!!

(runs and washes hands)

Anyone want a cat? Very lovable with those he loves...........unfortunately he loves no one!

In other words, your basic cat.

pilotbob · 03-11-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

In other words, your basic cat.

Cat's love me. Then again, being a bird, I don't much care for them.

BOb

desertgrandma · 03-11-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

In other words, your basic cat.

Well, if you are going to be pedantic........

JSWolf · 03-11-2009, 05:21 PM

Can we get back on topic please?

tompe · 03-11-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

Here's my question, why is it that the penalties for malicious misuse of DMCA takedowns are not being enforced?? Any one, at any time is allowed to effectively cripple a site on a completely false accusation and there is no recourse??

Please someone explain to me when the US became a haven for witch hunters.

That I have wondered also.

Also since the strategy from organizations like IFPI is to frighten people and every time somebody acts frightened (e.g. by pointing out possible illegalities in this forum) then they are caving in to the extortion from these kind of organizations.

RickyMaveety · 03-11-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tompe

That I have wondered also.

Also since the strategy from organizations like IFPI is to frighten people and every time somebody acts frightened (e.g. by pointing out possible illegalities in this forum) then they are caving in to the extortion from these kind of organizations.

And, that's exactly how I see it. It is extortion on a huge scale. It chaps my hide to think that my government is going to allow corporations to stifle free expression with threats that have no basis in law.

Sonist · 03-11-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

If you are planning on converting the travel guide PDF for your Kindle, forget it. All that will happen is that it will end up being a real mess.

Thanks, JSWolf. It sounds right, I tried, but haven't really been able to do a decent conversion from PDF, to something like mobi or epub.

Does anyone have any experience with travel book PDF, if they are searchable on something like the iLiad? Reflowable?

JSWolf · 03-11-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonist

Thanks, JSWolf. It sounds right, I tried, but haven't really been able to do a decent conversion from PDF, to something like mobi or epub.

Does anyone have any experience with travel book PDF, if they are searchable on something like the iLiad? Reflowable?

They should be good enough as is on an iLiad. Check out the iLiad forums on MR first and see what's what with an iLiad.

Sydney's Mom · 03-11-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Can we get back on topic please?

Awwwww, do we HAVE to? This is the most fun I have had at work in quite awhile!

JSWolf · 03-12-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sydney's Mom

Awwwww, do we HAVE to? This is the most fun I have had at work in quite awhile!

So you enjoy poo?

Shaggy · 03-12-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

Here's my question, why is it that the penalties for malicious misuse of DMCA takedowns are not being enforced?? Any one, at any time is allowed to effectively cripple a site on a completely false accusation and there is no recourse??

Please someone explain to me when the US became a haven for witch hunters.

When corporate lobbyists started writing laws.

Shaggy · 03-12-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonist

Does anyone have any experience with travel book PDF, if they are searchable on something like the iLiad? Reflowable?

I don't know anything about travel book PDFs, but the iLiad does not support searching or reflowing PDFs.

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03-11-2009, 04:50 PM	#181
RickyMaveety Holy S**T!!! Posts: 5,213 Karma: 108401 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Diego, California!! Device: Kindle and iPad	I eat stuff with cat and dog poop all over my fingers every day. Granted, it's probably just a microscopic amount, but I'm sure it's there and it hasn't killed me yet!!

03-11-2009, 05:21 PM	#187
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,796 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Can we get back on topic please?