Forma How can speed up the process from off to "reading a book" - Page 2

DNSB · 08-31-2019, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by droopy

Nice, 255 minutes is 4 hours and 15 minutes. How can I make my Forma auto-poweroff in 4h15m?

Check the kobopatcher thread. I think the relevant patch is in the libnickel.so.1.0.0.yaml file. The maximum shown is 240 to match with being able to fit the description string of "4 hours" into available space but you could replace 240 with 255 if desired.

droopy · 08-31-2019, 02:07 PM

On my Forma, the longest period is 60 minutes. What devices do you have that you have a period of 4 hours without any patches/tweaks/hacks?

PeterT · 08-31-2019, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by droopy

On my Forma, the longest period is 60 minutes. What devices do you have that you have a period of 4 hours without any patches/tweaks/hacks?

None. You might be able to manually edit the kobo.conf file on the device to put in 240 (or even 255).

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PeterT · 08-31-2019, 03:33 PM

Searching old threads I found

Code:

[PowerOptions]
AutoOffMinutes=60

So try either editing that section or adding it if it doesn't exist but set it to 240 or 255 but no larger. Note no blank line between the lines.

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DNSB · 08-31-2019, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by droopy

On my Forma, the longest period is 60 minutes. What devices do you have that you have a period of 4 hours without any patches/tweaks/hacks?

Given that the base firmware on all Kobo touch ereaders is the same and the responses about extending the power off time have mentioned patching/tweaking/sacrificing a black rooster at midnight while dancing widdershins and skyclad around a blasted oak, your query is a bit disingenuous. So either use the patch to change the timer settings or use a single setting in the KoboeReader.conf file (as mentioned by PeterT).

Personally, I only power off my Kobo ereaders when I plan on storing them for months. For the most part, putting them to sleep allows me to start reading much faster and, in my testing with my usage patterns, I found no advantage to powering them off in terms of battery life. YMMV.

John F · 09-01-2019, 07:07 AM

Doesn't a Kobo automitically shut itself off once the battery gets low? Is it bad for the battery to let the battery run low and have the Kobo shut itself off?

davidfor · 09-01-2019, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John F

Doesn't a Kobo automitically shut itself off once the battery gets low? Is it bad for the battery to let the battery run low and have the Kobo shut itself off?

Only if you leave it like that for to long. The power off level this happens at will be above the point were the battery is damaged. If you don't charge it, then it will self-discharge further, and that could potentially damage the battery if left to long. But, for a battery in a reasonable state, that could be weeks.

ZodWallop · 09-02-2019, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by droopy

Hi Liesse,

Not sure... I guess I want to save on battery power.

I think you're thinking of your e-reader like a phone. Try setting auto poweroff to 'Never' for a few weeks or months. See what happens. You will see no practical difference in battery power between turning it off as you do now and leaving it asleep for that same amount of time.

droopy · 09-02-2019, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZodWallop

I think you're thinking of your e-reader like a phone. Try setting auto poweroff to 'Never' for a few weeks or months. See what happens. You will see no practical difference in battery power between turning it off as you do now and leaving it asleep for that same amount of time.

Do you dare be the first responder to my thread titled "how long till new Forma goes from 100% to 1% battery on sleep?(WiFi&sync are disabled)"

droopy · 09-02-2019, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterT

Searching old threads I found

Code:

[PowerOptions]
AutoOffMinutes=60

So try either editing that section or adding it if it doesn't exist but set it to 240 or 255 but no larger. Note no blank line between the lines.

Hi PeterT,
Thanks for your reply. In the /.kobo/Kobo/Kobo eReader.conf file, I found the PowerOptions section you quoted.

It was

Code:

[PowerOptions]
AutoColorEnabled=false
AutoOffMinutes=60
AutoSleepMinutes=5
BedTime=@Variant(\0\0\0\xf\x4\xb8\x7f\0)
ColorSetting=6400
FrontLightLevel=0
FullscreenCoverInfoPanel=false
FullscreenCoverStretch=true
ShowBookCover=true

.

I changed one line to make it

Code:

AutoOffMinutes=240

.
When I ejected the Forma and reviewed the EnergySavings Settings, The "Automatically Power off After' field was on "5 minutes".

I guess this method does not work anymore.

I guess it's time to try the "patching" method.

John F · 09-02-2019, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by droopy

Hi PeterT,
Thanks for your reply. In the /.kobo/Kobo/Kobo eReader.conf file, I found the PowerOptions section you quoted.

It was

Code:

[PowerOptions]
AutoColorEnabled=false
AutoOffMinutes=60
AutoSleepMinutes=5
BedTime=@Variant(\0\0\0\xf\x4\xb8\x7f\0)
ColorSetting=6400
FrontLightLevel=0
FullscreenCoverInfoPanel=false
FullscreenCoverStretch=true
ShowBookCover=true

.

I changed one line to make it

Code:

AutoOffMinutes=240

.
When I ejected the Forma and reviewed the EnergySavings Settings, The "Automatically Power off After' field was on "5 minutes".

I guess this method does not work anymore.

I guess it's time to try the "patching" method.

Try setting it to 240 in the config file, and don't visit the setting in the GUI. Than see how long it takes to power off. Visiting the GUI may change it back to some default.

ZodWallop · 09-02-2019, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by droopy

Do you dare be the first responder to my thread titled "how long till new Forma goes from 100% to 1% battery on sleep?(WiFi&sync are disabled)"

I'm up to the challenge!

PeterT · 09-02-2019, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by droopy

Hi PeterT,
Thanks for your reply. In the /.kobo/Kobo/Kobo eReader.conf file, I found the PowerOptions section you quoted.

It was

Code:

[PowerOptions]
AutoColorEnabled=false
AutoOffMinutes=60
AutoSleepMinutes=5
BedTime=@Variant(\0\0\0\xf\x4\xb8\x7f\0)
ColorSetting=6400
FrontLightLevel=0
FullscreenCoverInfoPanel=false
FullscreenCoverStretch=true
ShowBookCover=true

.

I changed one line to make it

Code:

AutoOffMinutes=240

.
When I ejected the Forma and reviewed the EnergySavings Settings, The "Automatically Power off After' field was on "5 minutes".

I guess this method does not work anymore.

I guess it's time to try the "patching" method.

The Gui will only display the standard values. Set it in the conf file and see what happens after 4 hours

ilovejedd · 09-02-2019, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidfor

The battery usage of these devices sleeping is so low, that unless you aren't going to use the device for a week or more, turning it off is not that helpful. If you are reading every day, the reading will be what is running the battery down.

Agreed. Not really worth powering off unless it won't be used for months.

Not quite the Kobo but monitored battery drain on the Kindle PW4. Even with sync on and airplane mode off (wifi on), drain was just 8% after 4 weeks on sleep mode.

Frankly, the boot process probably uses more power than being on standby/sleep would.

Frenzie · 09-03-2019, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovejedd

Even with sync on and airplane mode off (wifi on), drain was just 8% after 4 weeks on sleep mode.

It's not like those things are on while sleeping. :P

08-31-2019, 03:33 PM	#19
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,693 Karma: 79983758 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Libra H2O, Libra Colour	Searching old threads I found Code: [PowerOptions] AutoOffMinutes=60 So try either editing that section or adding it if it doesn't exist but set it to 240 or 255 but no larger. Note no blank line between the lines. Sent from my moto g(7) power using Tapatalk

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