Seeking two books in reader form

Jaie · 03-10-2009, 10:05 PM

I really need to find Water for Elephants by Sara Gruen (next book club book at college) and Forever Amber by Kathleen Winsor. I found Water at Sony store, but I have Jetbook, and frankly Sony wanted a stupid amount for an e-file. I don't care about paying, I just refuse to pay as much as you would for a hard copy, that's kinda defeating the purpose.

As for Forever Amber, I find it really hard to believe this one hasn't been converted!! Its a classic!!

desertgrandma · 03-10-2009, 10:14 PM

Well, Jaie, Amazon has it for the Kindle at $8.37 here. There are also other options listed, such as audio, etc.

http://www.amazon.com/Water-for-Elep...6737603&sr=1-1

AnemicOak · 03-10-2009, 10:27 PM

Looks like 'Water' is only in ebook form at Amazon and at Sony. The other doesn't appear to be available period.

Jaie · 03-10-2009, 10:37 PM

Sadly, at Amazon I see no other format other than Kindle. I hate audio books so that is out. I did check up there first but since I've got a Jetbook, that Kindle format does me very little good.

Jaie · 03-10-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

Looks like 'Water' is only in ebook form at Amazon and at Sony. The other doesn't appear to be available period.

Argh. Forever is a HUGE book so I suppose I shouldn't be shocked it hasn't been transcribed yet. I am kinda annoyed that Water is only in two stores though. I was hoping my Google-Fu had not failed me.

AnemicOak · 03-10-2009, 10:52 PM

You could try contacting the publishers to find out if there are ebooks and we're just not finding them, but I checked all the usual shops.

Water is done by Alongquin (Workman) http://www.workman.com/algonquin/

Forever is done by Chicago Review Press http://www.chicagoreviewpress.com/

With Water it may be a case of a smaller publisher taking the easy route. I think Sony and Amazon will do some of the grunt work to get the ebook made just to get it into their stores.

With Forever I don't know if that publisher does ebooks at all.

Patricia · 03-10-2009, 11:02 PM

Kathleen Winsor, the author of Forever Amber, died in 2003. So her books are almost certainly still in copyright everywhere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Winsor

So it is not in the public domain. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a legal ebook for sale. It is a great pity that publishers neglect the opportunity to sell ebook versions of their backlists.

AnemicOak · 03-10-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Patricia

It is a great pity that publishers neglect the opportunity to sell ebook versions of their backlists.

It is, but things do seem to be getting better.

Also I think some of them are unsure about putting the time/money into creating an ebook edition. The ebook market is showing great growth, but it's still pretty small overall. It does seem that when some publishers need to do the work to do a new printing of a book that that's the time they also put the extra into putting out an e-edition too.

Jaie · 03-10-2009, 11:13 PM

I kind of figured. I'd done that route myself and checked the publishers along with about 50 other ebook sites, I even checked the latest torrents and nothing. Well, there's anothe rmillion out there waiting to be read I suppose but I did really want those.

Jaie · 03-10-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

It is, but things do seem to be getting better.

Also I think some of them are unsure about putting the time/money into creating an ebook edition. The ebook market is showing great growth, but it's still pretty small overall. It does seem that when some publishers need to do the work to do a new printing of a book that that's the time they also put the extra into putting out an e-edition too.

This seems really shortsighted to me although I get it. But then these authors can't figure out why their books are now being downloaded illegally all over. In this day and age, authors really need to just accept the world of technology and encourage the idea of smaller formats and lower prices.

I do agree, its still a small market, but its an old market really. Even before dedicated readers books were read online. Seems stupidly shortsighted in a lot of cases.

In the case of Amber, its even worse to me. We're talking a 1,000 page book that really SHOULD be in a e-format. The thing is stupidly huge and e-format would save about 7" of shelf space.

AnemicOak · 03-10-2009, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaie

In the case of Amber, its even worse to me. We're talking a 1,000 page book that really SHOULD be in a e-format. The thing is stupidly huge and e-format would save about 7" of shelf space.

Yep, it'd make sense. You'd think the smaller pubs would try and take advantage of all their options to survive and jump into a 'new' market with gusto, but the opposite seems to usually be the case.

The thing with 'Water' is that you can get it for Kindle or Sony, you can get it on the Darknet, but you can't buy a copy from any ebook retailer like FW or BoB. So some of the folks that want it and would have bought it will instead download the pirated version (not saying it's right) and no one gets paid.

Jaie · 03-11-2009, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AnemicOak

So some of the folks that want it and would have bought it will instead download the pirated version (not saying it's right) and no one gets paid.

You hit it right on the head. I want to give authors their money. I really truly do. And when I'm forced to go and get a pirated whatever I feel dirty. But I'm also angry because now, because short of buying a physical book that I don't want, only need for a month, I've got to find another way. Miserable really.

JSWolf · 03-11-2009, 01:30 AM

Actually, there may be another way to get the books. Try your local library to see if they have them.

nohmi2 · 03-11-2009, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaie

I really need to find Water for Elephants by Sara Gruen (next book club book at college) and Forever Amber by Kathleen Winsor. I found Water at Sony store, but I have Jetbook, and frankly Sony wanted a stupid amount for an e-file. I don't care about paying, I just refuse to pay as much as you would for a hard copy, that's kinda defeating the purpose.

As for Forever Amber, I find it really hard to believe this one hasn't been converted!! Its a classic!!

I agree completely.

My Mom had it, and I read it when I was about ten years of age (didn't understand most of it, but would have read a telephone book if I got my hands on one).

Would also like to see the "Falco" series by Lindsey Davies in an e-book series.

03-10-2009, 10:05 PM	#1
Jaie Connoisseur Posts: 78 Karma: 24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oswego New York Device: JetBook, Aspire One Netbook (UMPC)	Seeking two books in reader form I really need to find Water for Elephants by Sara Gruen (next book club book at college) and Forever Amber by Kathleen Winsor. I found Water at Sony store, but I have Jetbook, and frankly Sony wanted a stupid amount for an e-file. I don't care about paying, I just refuse to pay as much as you would for a hard copy, that's kinda defeating the purpose. As for Forever Amber, I find it really hard to believe this one hasn't been converted!! Its a classic!!

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03-10-2009, 10:14 PM	#2
desertgrandma Enjoying the show.... Posts: 14,270 Karma: 10462843 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Arizona Device: A K1, Kindle Paperwhite, an Ipod, IPad2, Iphone, an Ipad Mini & macAir	Well, Jaie, Amazon has it for the Kindle at $8.37 here. There are also other options listed, such as audio, etc. http://www.amazon.com/Water-for-Elep...6737603&sr=1-1

03-10-2009, 10:27 PM	#3
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR +	Looks like 'Water' is only in ebook form at Amazon and at Sony. The other doesn't appear to be available period.

03-10-2009, 10:37 PM	#4
Jaie Connoisseur Posts: 78 Karma: 24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oswego New York Device: JetBook, Aspire One Netbook (UMPC)	Sadly, at Amazon I see no other format other than Kindle. I hate audio books so that is out. I did check up there first but since I've got a Jetbook, that Kindle format does me very little good.

03-10-2009, 10:52 PM	#6
AnemicOak Bookaholic Posts: 14,391 Karma: 54969924 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iPad Mini 4, AuraHD, iPhone XR +	You could try contacting the publishers to find out if there are ebooks and we're just not finding them, but I checked all the usual shops. Water is done by Alongquin (Workman) http://www.workman.com/algonquin/ Forever is done by Chicago Review Press http://www.chicagoreviewpress.com/ With Water it may be a case of a smaller publisher taking the easy route. I think Sony and Amazon will do some of the grunt work to get the ebook made just to get it into their stores. With Forever I don't know if that publisher does ebooks at all.

03-10-2009, 11:02 PM	#7
Patricia Reader Posts: 11,504 Karma: 8720163 Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Wales, UK Device: Sony PRS-500, PRS-505, Asus EEEpc 4G	Kathleen Winsor, the author of Forever Amber, died in 2003. So her books are almost certainly still in copyright everywhere. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Winsor So it is not in the public domain. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a legal ebook for sale. It is a great pity that publishers neglect the opportunity to sell ebook versions of their backlists.

03-10-2009, 11:13 PM	#9
Jaie Connoisseur Posts: 78 Karma: 24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oswego New York Device: JetBook, Aspire One Netbook (UMPC)	I kind of figured. I'd done that route myself and checked the publishers along with about 50 other ebook sites, I even checked the latest torrents and nothing. Well, there's anothe rmillion out there waiting to be read I suppose but I did really want those.

03-11-2009, 01:30 AM	#13
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,226 Karma: 145488788 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Actually, there may be another way to get the books. Try your local library to see if they have them.