Troubleshooting About the margins of the pages

warface9991 · 08-26-2019, 06:44 PM

Hi,
I have been using Kindle Voyage for some time now and enjoying it except for one thing: margins. Although I selected "compact" mode in the page settings, I want my margins more narrower like 25% less than the narrowest one present in kindle at the moment. Can't I do something else? I don't want to install "KOReader", which is a software with high customization, just to narrow my margins.

lumpynose · 08-26-2019, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by warface9991

Hi,
I have been using Kindle Voyage for some time now and enjoying it except for one thing: margins. Although I selected "compact" mode in the page settings, I want my margins more narrower like 25% less than the narrowest one present in kindle at the moment. Can't I do something else? I don't want to install "KOReader", which is a software with high customization, just to narrow my margins.

Is it consistent across all books? Sometimes authors "adjust" the margins in the book's styling.

jhowell · 08-26-2019, 07:15 PM

I believe that if you create and sideload your own azw3 file with negative margins you can override Amazon’s limitations. (I haven’t tried this myself. I find the standard margins to be fine for my own reading.)

odamizu · 08-27-2019, 12:55 AM

Negative margins work for KF8/AZW3 if you want margins narrower than the Kindle default.

See this thread: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh....php?p=3835717

DuckieTigger · 08-27-2019, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by odamizu

Negative margins work for KF8/AZW3 if you want margins narrower than the Kindle default.

See this thread: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=322530

That is funny, you link to this thread.

Dr. Drib · 08-27-2019, 10:36 AM

Hey! Wha' happen? Wassamata?

The recursive universe dropped me into a mobius strip and I'm back where I started!!!

odamizu · 08-28-2019, 01:22 AM

Try this link instead

: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh....php?p=3835717

warface9991 · 08-28-2019, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by odamizu

Try this link instead

: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh....php?p=3835717

Can I do this to the books downloaded from amazon store? Does this break word wise?

lumpynose · 08-28-2019, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by warface9991

Can I do this to the books downloaded from amazon store? Does this break word wise?

You'd need to install Apprentice Alf's plugin that removes the DRM, then remove the book from Calibre's library and add it back. The DRM is removed at the moment you add the book to Calibre's library. Then you can enter the wonderful world of editing the CSS. (Google "dedrm apprentice alf" to find the Calibre plugin.)

I don't know for sure but I'd guess it won't break word wise.

odamizu · 08-28-2019, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by warface9991

Can I do this to the books downloaded from amazon store? Does this break word wise?

As lumpynose notes, you can do this on books purchased and downloaded from Amazon, but you need to remove DRM first, modify the css, then sideload it onto your Kindle.

I don't use Word Wise, but I tested it quickly, and Word Wise didn't work on my sideloaded books. There may be a way to get it working. I don't know.

warface9991 · 08-28-2019, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by odamizu

As lumpynose notes, you can do this on books purchased and downloaded from Amazon, but you need to remove DRM first, modify the css, then sideload it onto your Kindle.

I don't use Word Wise, but I tested it quickly, and Word Wise didn't work on my sideloaded books. There may be a way to get it working. I don't know.

Thanks for your efforts

lumpynose · 08-28-2019, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by odamizu

I don't use Word Wise, but I tested it quickly, and Word Wise didn't work on my sideloaded books. There may be a way to get it working. I don't know.

Maybe it's because they aren't .kfx?

JSWolf · 08-28-2019, 03:30 PM

warface9991, you have to download the eBook from Amazon directly so you don't get KFX. You don't want KFX when adjusting the margin using html (as I posted in the other thred).

lumpynose · 08-28-2019, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

warface9991, you have to download the eBook from Amazon directly so you don't get KFX.

Hover over the Account & Lists at the top of the amazon page and then click on Your Content and Devices. Then on that page click on the 3 dots button in the Actions column and select Download & Transfer via USB.

odamizu · 08-28-2019, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lumpynose

Maybe it's because they aren't .kfx?

It doesn't look that way. I did a quick buzz through Amazon's website, and there are non-KFX books that have Word Wise enabled and KFX books that do not have Word Wise enabled.

Either way, it does seem to be something that Amazon has to add in to the book's coding.

I sideload all my books via Send to Kindle so Amazon identifies them as Personal Documents. I'm not surprised they don't have Word Wise.

I wonder if there's a way to edit an AZW3 without losing the coding that enables Word Wise.

08-26-2019, 06:44 PM	#1
warface9991 Connoisseur Posts: 58 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2019 Device: Kobo GLO HD	About the margins of the pages Hi, I have been using Kindle Voyage for some time now and enjoying it except for one thing: margins. Although I selected "compact" mode in the page settings, I want my margins more narrower like 25% less than the narrowest one present in kindle at the moment. Can't I do something else? I don't want to install "KOReader", which is a software with high customization, just to narrow my margins.

08-27-2019, 12:55 AM	#4
odamizu just an egg Posts: 1,827 Karma: 7943430 Join Date: Mar 2015 Device: Kindle, iOS	Negative margins work for KF8/AZW3 if you want margins narrower than the Kindle default. See this thread: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh....php?p=3835717 Last edited by odamizu; 08-28-2019 at 01:22 AM. Reason: corrected link

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jhowell Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,072 Karma: 91577715 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Charlottesville, VA Device: Kindles	I believe that if you create and sideload your own azw3 file with negative margins you can override Amazon’s limitations. (I haven’t tried this myself. I find the standard margins to be fine for my own reading.)

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08-28-2019, 01:22 AM	#7
odamizu just an egg Posts: 1,827 Karma: 7943430 Join Date: Mar 2015 Device: Kindle, iOS	Try this link instead : https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh....php?p=3835717

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JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,756 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	warface9991, you have to download the eBook from Amazon directly so you don't get KFX. You don't want KFX when adjusting the margin using html (as I posted in the other thred).