Sigil-0.9.16 Released - Page 2

DiapDealer · 07-22-2019, 09:27 AM

Ahh ... the old "Well I'm not going to be updating to this new-fangled version of Sigil!" passive aggressive compliant. I think this will mark our first "major" revolt since taking over as maintainers. How quaint.

We'll miss you (right up until you eventually come around and start secretly using the newest versions again).

Doitsu · 07-22-2019, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lwalper

That single click in 9.14 has me spoiled.

You can open PageEdit with a single click, too. (You can also simply press F2.)

DiapDealer · 07-22-2019, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by lwalper

Yes, I can (1) save, (2) close the editor, (3) open new chapter, (4) open editor -- too complicated for my liking. That single click in 9.14 has me spoiled.

Or you can skip steps 1 and 2 and and just open a new chapter in PageEdit. You can have multiple instances of PageEdit open for WYSIWYG editing simultaneously. No need to save and close before moving to a new chapter. Save/close only when you're ready to commit changes.

pete6055 · 07-22-2019, 12:50 PM

Hi,

Now that book view is gone, how do you get Sigil to render html that you’ve saved to the clipboard via a simple screen copy? It’s the rendering engine that was useful occasionally.

I suppose this can now be done outside of Sigil?

DiapDealer · 07-22-2019, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pete6055

Hi,

Now that book view is gone, how do you get Sigil to render html that you’ve saved to the clipboard via a simple screen copy? It’s the rendering engine that was useful occasionally.

I suppose this can now be done outside of Sigil?

You can use the new PageEdit external editing app to paste in formatted text.

stumped · 07-22-2019, 02:59 PM

Not complaining, just hanging on to book view and not updating. Appreciated the warning that updating would remove it.

I can't think what new killer feature could entice me to move on, but will keep reading the release notes.
The version i already have is fine for my simple edit epub needs.

DiapDealer · 07-22-2019, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stumped

Not complaining, just hanging on to book view and not updating. Appreciated the warning that updating would remove it.

No problem at all. I really tried to spread the word that it was going away as far and as I wide as I could (and as early as possible). I'm just glad that someone actually took notice of the warnings before updating.

pete6055 · 07-22-2019, 03:51 PM

Thanks...finally tested pagedit. It worked well for me, and I'm "work adverse!" Problem solved...not much of a change to work flow, so 9.16 is ready to use. Nice work guys!

lumpynose · 07-22-2019, 05:09 PM

Maybe I'm an outlier but I find the Preview window/pane sufficient. There's plenty of horizontal space on my monitor to have it over on the right.

DiapDealer · 07-22-2019, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lumpynose

Maybe I'm an outlier but I find the Preview window/pane sufficient. There's plenty of horizontal space on my monitor to have it over on the right.

If you're an outlier, I am too. I leave preview docked on the right and rather small.

ZodWallop · 07-22-2019, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

And if you reread the first post again, you can roll forward again to the latest version of sigil, then install PageEdit on the side...

I read that. But that seems like Apple's 'There's a dongle for everything' issue. Take a function that was already there, lose it and replace it with something that takes more work and is not as good.

I'm not questioning the dev's decision. I'm just going to stick with the version that works for me.

odamizu · 07-22-2019, 08:34 PM

One of the reasons I was looking forward to 0.9.15/16 is the cleaner interface without the BookView/CodeView icons in the toolbar.

I get that there are BookView fans and I appreciate that KevinH and DiapDealer went out of their way to create PageEdit as an alternative for them.

For me, when I first started using Sigil, BookView was a source of frustration. When I realized there was Preview (and how I missed that in the beginning I don't know — must have closed that window without realizing what it was), I became a Sigil convert. Before that I was editing epubs using an HTML (non-WYSWIG) text editor and quite happy doing it that way. The combination of Code View + Preview + Sigil's epub tools have spoiled me to the point that the thought of editing epubs without Sigil makes me panic

DiapDealer · 07-22-2019, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by odamizu

When I realized there was Preview (and how I missed that in the beginning I don't know — must have closed that window without realizing what it was), I became a Sigil convert.

You didn't miss it. It was never visible by default.

It still isn't. It really needs to be visible in one of the dock areas on a brand-new install, but I can't find a happy medium when presenting the default gui interface on three platforms. If I enable Preview by default on Windows, it takes over and smashes all other content/widgets to the left. It's huge! MainWindow seems to do a good job of initially sizing all of the widgets EXCEPT Preview for some reason.

I'll get it eventually.

DiapDealer · 07-22-2019, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I'll get it eventually.

And just like that, I believe I've had a breakthrough!

odamizu · 07-22-2019, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

You didn't miss it. It was never visible by default.

Ah. In that case I don't feel so foolish

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

And just like that, I believe I've had a breakthrough!

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07-22-2019, 09:27 AM	#16
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,892 Karma: 207182180 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Ahh ... the old "Well I'm* not going to be updating to this new-fangled version of Sigil!*" passive aggressive compliant. I think this will mark our first "major" revolt since taking over as maintainers. How quaint. We'll miss you (right up until you eventually come around and start secretly using the newest versions again).

07-22-2019, 12:50 PM	#19
pete6055 Connoisseur Posts: 74 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2012 Device: none	Hi, Now that book view is gone, how do you get Sigil to render html that you’ve saved to the clipboard via a simple screen copy? It’s the rendering engine that was useful occasionally. I suppose this can now be done outside of Sigil?

07-22-2019, 02:59 PM	#21
stumped Wizard Posts: 3,305 Karma: 10259306 Join Date: May 2016 Device: kobo forma, Kobo Libra, Huawei media Tab, fire HD10, PW3 HDX8.9,	Not complaining, just hanging on to book view and not updating. Appreciated the warning that updating would remove it. I can't think what new killer feature could entice me to move on, but will keep reading the release notes. The version i already have is fine for my simple edit epub needs.

07-22-2019, 03:51 PM	#23
pete6055 Connoisseur Posts: 74 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2012 Device: none	Thanks...finally tested pagedit. It worked well for me, and I'm "work adverse!" Problem solved...not much of a change to work flow, so 9.16 is ready to use. Nice work guys!

07-22-2019, 05:09 PM	#24
lumpynose Wizard Posts: 1,086 Karma: 6719822 Join Date: Jul 2012 Device: Palm Pilot M105	Maybe I'm an outlier but I find the Preview window/pane sufficient. There's plenty of horizontal space on my monitor to have it over on the right.

07-22-2019, 08:34 PM	#27
odamizu just an egg Posts: 1,848 Karma: 8006346 Join Date: Mar 2015 Device: Kindle, iOS	One of the reasons I was looking forward to 0.9.15/16 is the cleaner interface without the BookView/CodeView icons in the toolbar. I get that there are BookView fans and I appreciate that KevinH and DiapDealer went out of their way to create PageEdit as an alternative for them. For me, when I first started using Sigil, BookView was a source of frustration. When I realized there was Preview (and how I missed that in the beginning I don't know — must have closed that window without realizing what it was), I became a Sigil convert. Before that I was editing epubs using an HTML (non-WYSWIG) text editor and quite happy doing it that way. The combination of Code View + Preview + Sigil's epub tools have spoiled me to the point that the thought of editing epubs without Sigil makes me panic