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Aura H2O (1st gen.) screen repair howto
This is my very first post ever. On any forum. I hope I'm not stepping on anyones toes...
About a year ago I agreed to fix the broken screen of a friends Koko H2O. By that time I had successfully repaired an Icarus8 and several smartphone screens and I thought the most tedious part would be to wait for the new screen to arrive from China... Well I made my bet without knowing anything about infrared touch screen technology and the wonders of water-proof assembly with double-sided tape. To change the screen was easy, but even after a good dozen of tries I couldn't get the touch screen to work properly and for a device with just one button that is a no go. Eventually I gave up and felt bad about it ever since, until I got another broken H2O on ebay for parts to start over. This time it worked out. I thought I could post a little step-by-step in case anyone needs to change a broken screen, not wanting to go through the whole learning experience. I am sure there are other ways to do it and comments and corrections are welcome. I am only documenting what I have done. overview Spoiler:
part 1 : taking it apart Spoiler:
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why people insist on separating the front bezel + infrared guide is beyond me
it's supposed to stay together yes there is a lot of glue all around, but even so, you can pry the front bezel (including the IR layer) off using no tools other than your fingernails. start in the top corner, it comes off. the water-seal glue is sufficiently soft/flexible at room temperature, no heat guns required neither. there's a youtube vid where someone stabs in with a guitar pick, and even says you should be harsh with it, too much... patient and gentle does the trick or well, at least that's how it worked for me (old post) https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...66#post2998466 front bezel + IR stayed as one part. re-gluing the IR to the bezel is not something I would look forward to in the end I only had to remove some glue lumps from the water seal, not re-glue anything myself obviously not water proof anymore but I doubt it ever was - for my other H2O the front bezel was lifted up in one corner when snapping it into a protective case so that's not waterproof either despite never opened all the way Last edited by frostschutz; 05-22-2019 at 06:54 PM. |
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@frostschutz : Truth is, I would have liked to find your post when I started this. Unfortunately I didn't. I don't remember how exactly, but I ended up with a new screen and a non-working touch screen.
In trying to fix that by understanding how the touch screen worked I got probably as close as you can to the work at the actual assembly line... ![]() At one point I wanted to be able see the alignment pins of the light guide going into the pcb. (see 14.) Only way to do this was to separate front bezel and infrared guide... That's the only technical reason I can offer. Yes, it's long and messy, but I still recommend this procedure. Works every time, you get perfect alignment, no gaps, no bumps... That was especially important since I made the repair for someone else. part 2 : back together again Spoiler:
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@hatteras Nice posts! Would you know what wavelength the IR LEDs use. I couldn't find it in the docs from further reader.
I have already fixed the screen of my Kobo Aura H2O. But the touchscreen had a problem with a column on the left. It turned out to be a missing infrared diode (IR LED side SMD). Still trying to pin down what wavelength the photodiode receivers use. Apparently, 850 and 940nm . Unfortunately, the size of the diodes has changed over the years. My old pocketbook and Kobo Aura HD use a larger IR LED, otherwise I could have soldered that one onto my H2O....probably, still going to try that. ![]() EDIT: It's working again! Last edited by Markismus; 06-13-2019 at 02:04 PM. |
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@Markismus good for you !
Sorry, didn't have any info on the ir diodes. I managed to see them glow under the camera of my phone back when I was still trying to confirm that the touch screen actually uses infrared light, if that is of any help. I found this post on 840nm vs. 940nm https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projec...gth-of-ir-led/ : "840nm and 940nm are common wavelength values used for IR remote controls. It is easy to differentiate between both, because you can see 840nm slightly glowing in the dark, but 940nm is virtually invisible. You can verify the LED is active by using a digital camera: The LED should be visible as a white or purple spot." Same here : https://ellipsesecurity.com/2018/05/...r-illuminator/ But I did not actually build a test circuit to try that out. You were using older, larger leds for your repair ? Did I get that right ? Took a picture by any chance ? |
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Thanks! That is a practical approach! I'll use it to check them next time.
I used the size of the ones linked to on AliExpress. The ones in the H2O are a bit smaller. We're talking half a mm or somehting. The ereader is still not as responsive as I would like. So I'll probably open it up and check the other IR LEDs: I'll snap a photo. |
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The IR sensors and the plastic have a quite broad response. I'd think slightly more 940mm IR will pass black plastic than 840nm. It's likely only the dispersion angle of the integral lens on the LED has much effect.
Either wavelength works with most IR receivers in VCRs, TVs, Set-boxes etc. Unlike the photo-sensors in touch screens and rotary encoders the IR remote control receivers have a filter to block visible light as part of the plastic encapsulation and use 36 KHz to 40 kHz modulation. The IR receiver has the photo-diode or photo-transistor, a 38 KHz amplifier / filter (to reject 50Hz, 60Hz, 100Hz and 120Hz lighting flicker and sunlight), then a level detector and logic level output. The IR touch screens likely have plain photo-diodes / transistors and the controller IC multiplexed ADC followed by processing. That IC will multiplex the transmit LEDs too. It's likely that it scans slowly with narrrow pulses to save power and then switches to a fast accurate mode when the initial touch is detected. You can play with the sketch application to see that this is very probable. Also I've designed low power electronics, originally in late 1980s. It was standard to intermittently pulse on the receiver till a signal was detected (battery powered receivers of IR, ultrasonic or RF remote signals). I've used ANY sort of electronic camera without a professional IR blocking filter to check IR LEDs. Even in 1970s the vidicon tubes in otherwise "solid state" security cameras had no filter to block IR. This was so "heat" lamps with black filters could be used as covert flood lights at night. Some used two 230V halogen spot lamps wiired in series. Professional video cameras and still cameras have IR and UV blocking filters to avoid false colour. I've never seen any evidence of either in phone cameras, my camcorder or fuji still camera as all those will respond to my UV Led for security marker ink and any IR remote handset. Some IR handsets use IRDA, a high speed protocol that used to be on some PDAs, phones and laptops. The set-boxes that those use won't work with most universal IR remotes. Last edited by Quoth; 06-14-2019 at 01:19 PM. |
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@FrustratedReader And also thanks for the added text to your post!
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I also replaced a H2O display today. ( it's not my first time opening H2O but my first time actually doing the display replacement ).
The broken H2O was a lucky find on Ebay ( under 10€, basically paid shipping only ). Before ordering a new display, I verified it worked perfectly fine otherwise, including the touch screen function. Well, I'd probably have ordered a display even if the touch didn't work... The new display was 25€ from aliexpress so the whole unit cost me 35€ ( plus my own sweat and tears during the replacement process ). Anyway. I'm lazy. So, I did it all without taking the PCB off. Didn't replace the old glue pads either, well I would've but none to be found in the house and couldn't wait. Anyway. It works. ![]() There was a bit of panic with "water on the screen" message because the front bezel was not aligned perfectly on first try reassembly (it has those 4 little notches that actually have to sink into the PCB itself to make it work - first time I ever notice that and there is no way to see it with the backplate on). Your pictures were very helpful, particularly the exact position of the glue pads under the display. Even so I didn't quite manage to take the broken display off in one piece... preserved the front light LEDs of the old display (LED is a glue stripe that peels of, if you do it carefully), so I have some (miniscule) hope of repair if one of the now three operational H2Os ever suffer a frontlight failure. I will try to upload some pictures later. And yeah I'm also totally cutting a hole into the back of this one for easy internal SD card access. Last edited by frostschutz; 06-22-2019 at 04:41 PM. |
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Pictures...
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there were a bunch of books stored on the reader, roughly 200... not to mention email address and other personal info. make sure to clean your stuff out before you send it back, you never know what people do with it. well, factory reset it is... Last edited by frostschutz; 06-22-2019 at 04:49 PM. |
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Ok, you got me convinced. Next time I won't separate ir bezel and front cover...
![]() Still one thing I didn't get. How do you put the screws back in when the front cover is blocking them ? I think that is why I ended up ripping the front cover off : being able to see that the notches are in their holes AND putting the screws back in. |
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not sure if I understand your screws question.
the front cover/bezel is not screwed on at all (that's why you can take it off). the PCB is screwed to the metal frame and the metal frame is screwed to the back cover. all other parts (display and front bezel and IR fins) are held together by glue and glue alone. other kobo models (before waterproof/glue came along) just used clamps in the plastic frame itself (the kind as breaks off when you open it) first picture here shows the device just before screwing it back onto the back cover. I have to be a careful with mine since I didn't renew the glue pads for the display at all (they were not included in the package, unfortunately) so it probably doesn't stick very well anymore. I considered buying another fintie case where the H2O just snaps in, but they seem to be out of stock indefinitely ... well, it is an older model edit: oooh, I think maybe you were confused by my pictures that show how the front bezel hooks into the PCB? those were taken with out the back cover. that's just to understand what is happening / for illustration, not how you actually assemble it. you have to screw the unit into the back cover then put the front bezel on it (and can't see whether it went in properly, but it helps to know that this could be a problem, so wiggle things a bit until touch works). this device can only be opened from the front, order cannot change Last edited by frostschutz; 06-23-2019 at 01:44 PM. |
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@Frostschutz Nice work and pictures! What kind of glue did you use?
Yesterday evening I replaced the battery and reglued the front bezel. (Forgot to snap a picture of the LED's.) It seemed perfect, but I now find that I have some trouble with the upper menu in koreader. So I probably misaligned or dropped some glue in the wrong place. It's going to be a bother to get it opened and cleaned again. |
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I really should go back and tape the display down properly (so it won't slam into one of the corners if the reader is ever dropped). Well, I assume that what would happen if the display doesn't stick to its backplate proper. Not testing that. I just didn't have any suitable tape at hand. Quote:
Of course, not waterproof anymore but that's a tall order anyway. Edit: oh, I actually use a bit of clear spellotape on the back to seal the sd-card-hole but I guess most people don't cut a hole there, anyway Last edited by frostschutz; 06-23-2019 at 01:40 PM. |
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Kobo H2O screen replacement
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Once that was done, the rest was plain sailing: 4 screws off, then battery detached, then e-ink screen ribbon cable and front light ribbon cable detached, then 6 screws off, then removal of the (in my case shattered) screen [go very carefully when you get to the four locations of the double-sided tape], then replace with new screen & front light, then reverse the rest of the process. I never bothered with replacing either the double-sided tape nor any of the glue and everything went back together without difficulty. No hot-air gun needed either. The overall appearance after replacement depends of course on the quality of the replacement screen (for me an ED068OG1): I paid little more than $20 on Ali Express, and received a very glossy screen but with a matte screen protector already applied over the top of the front light. I'm absolutely fine with that but it may be possible to pay more and get a true matte screen like the original - ymmv. |
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