|  05-06-2019, 03:04 AM | #3391 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,327 Karma: 5306 Join Date: Jan 2014 Device: none | 
			
			I have a bunch of old stories which no longer exists on the websites (FFnet and AO3) they are all downloaded before I added the wonderful saved metadata column. I was hoping for a tool that would let me create or update the saved metadata column based on a title page, whether it's in txt form or epub. Attached is an example in txt-format. | 
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|  05-06-2019, 06:00 AM | #3392 | |
| Deviser            Posts: 2,265 Karma: 2090983 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Texas Device: none | Quote: 
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|  05-06-2019, 06:03 AM | #3393 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,327 Karma: 5306 Join Date: Jan 2014 Device: none | 
			
			I wouldn't mind a guide on the how-to. I can send you an example of how the saved metadata column looks?
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|  05-06-2019, 02:34 PM | #3394 | 
| Plugin Developer            Posts: 7,125 Karma: 5005503 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Midwest USA Device: Kobo Clara Colour running KOReader | 
			
			I'm most of the way done with implementing an "update existing epub title page" feature.  But I'm debating about how it should be offered to the user: 
 (unrelated reply) @Tanjamuse, given that title_page is extremely configurable--and even the default appearance has changed over the years--it's pretty complex to parse it. I might have considered it anyway for epub, but txt files adds yet another layer of complexity. Especially for a feature that's very limited in scope--only useful for deleted stories collected without saved column. So I'm not interested in implementing that. | 
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|  05-06-2019, 03:25 PM | #3395 | 
| Plugin Developer            Posts: 7,125 Karma: 5005503 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Midwest USA Device: Kobo Clara Colour running KOReader | 
			
			New Test Version Posted 2019-05-06 - Fix for series contain 'collection from' adapter_storiesonlinenet. - Fix for anthology titles (and generate cover settings) not needing encode() anymore. | 
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|  05-06-2019, 03:36 PM | #3396 | |
| Groupie            Posts: 173 Karma: 8098 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Germany Device: Kindle Voyage, Kindle Oasis | Quote: 
 Basically, I would be happy with each of these options. But as I would use it to update the title page on single books before sending it to my reader I would prefer Option 3. Another advantage: it could also be used via a shortcut. Otherwise option 1 sounds good. As for option 2: I think that´s not necessary as an optional update feature. Most of the update modes already update the title page while downloading – if there are changes or I use "overwrite always" And if checked – would it always update the title page? Regardless of whether the epub is updated or not? Or only if no changes are made to the epub otherwise? With which update mode should it be combined to use? It could lead to confusion as it provides different possible combinations. General questions about it: - Does it only use Saved Metadata Columns? Or also costum columns? - How does option 2 fare if the original story has been deleted from the site? | |
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|  05-06-2019, 08:08 PM | #3397 | 
| Plugin Developer            Posts: 7,125 Karma: 5005503 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Midwest USA Device: Kobo Clara Colour running KOReader | 
			
			There are ups and downs to each approach in implementation. Option 1 can leverage existing code for reporting possible issues and optionally marking updated/failed books, and can fall back to 'Update CalMeta from Web site' if there's no saved column data. Option 2 is similar with the bonus that you could use calibre_std/cust_colname in title_page and they would be populated on new download. You would also have to mark (using 'New Only'/n flags) columns you want to manage manually, but that's already the case. I mention option two because I suspect that about 10 minutes after releasing the feature, someone will ask for it to run automatically on new downloads when they realize their manually-managed custom columns aren't in the title page until after an epub update or title page update. OTOH, users that truly manage those columns themselves and don't pre-populate them from FFF metadata with 'New Only' won't care. Option 3 keeps the new feature isolated from the update code path, which should preclude introducing new bugs into update--a not insignificant consideration--but requires either a reporting mechanism added (compared to UnNew), failure notices (when needed) by individual book, or silent failures. | 
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|  05-06-2019, 08:29 PM | #3398 | 
| Custom User Title            Posts: 11,347 Karma: 79528341 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Canada Device: Kobo Libra H2O, formerly Aura HD | 
			
			Searched the thread but didn't see: Is there a way to avoid downloading tags on new fics? Some authors get just a bit over-enthusiastic with them.
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|  05-06-2019, 09:34 PM | #3399 | |
| Plugin Developer            Posts: 7,125 Karma: 5005503 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Midwest USA Device: Kobo Clara Colour running KOReader | Quote: 
 But it can be done. How FFF populates Calibre's Tags is a bit odd for historical reasons. The INI setting include_subject_tags controls what is populated in Calibre's Tags column. (It started out as the control for what <dc:subject> tags end up in the epub format.) In personal.ini, you can set include_subject_tags. The default.ini value is: Code: include_subject_tags: extratags, genre, category, characters, ships, status Code: [defaults] # add to existing [defaults] section include_subject_tags: Code: [archiveofourown.org] # may need to add [archiveofourown.org] section. include_subject_tags: extratags, status [1] - While thinking about this I realized that some of the default.ini settings make it more difficult to remove all include_subject_tags settings for a few sites (the base_xenforoforum sites and potionsandsnitches.org specifically). I'll be fixing that before the next release. | |
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|  05-07-2019, 04:14 PM | #3400 | 
| Custom User Title            Posts: 11,347 Karma: 79528341 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Canada Device: Kobo Libra H2O, formerly Aura HD | 
			
			That worked. Thank you. While at it: Is there a way to set the tag to Fanfiction.[category]? | 
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|  05-07-2019, 08:07 PM | #3401 | 
| Plugin Developer            Posts: 7,125 Karma: 5005503 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Midwest USA Device: Kobo Clara Colour running KOReader | |
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|  05-07-2019, 09:16 PM | #3402 | 
| Custom User Title            Posts: 11,347 Karma: 79528341 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Canada Device: Kobo Libra H2O, formerly Aura HD | 
			
			Seems to work, except now I'm getting redundant FanFiction and Fanfiction.[category] tags for new fics. Not sure what I mucked up: EDIT: Never mind, adding a blank extratags worked. Last edited by ownedbycats; 05-07-2019 at 09:19 PM. | 
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|  05-08-2019, 12:02 PM | #3403 | 
| Plugin Developer            Posts: 7,125 Karma: 5005503 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Midwest USA Device: Kobo Clara Colour running KOReader | 
			
			New Test Version Posted 2019-05-08 - base_xenforoforum: include forumtags in genre and tagsfromtitle in category instead of including both in subject_tags. - Don't hardcode extratags into subject tags--it's in include_subject_tags in defaults.ini. - Refactor base_xenforoforum for upcoming XenForo2 update for SV. | 
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|  05-08-2019, 01:04 PM | #3404 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 1,327 Karma: 5306 Join Date: Jan 2014 Device: none | 
			
			Could you add an option where I can update the metadata-column based on the CC's in calibre instead of the other way around?
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|  05-08-2019, 02:04 PM | #3405 | 
| Plugin Developer            Posts: 7,125 Karma: 5005503 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Midwest USA Device: Kobo Clara Colour running KOReader | 
			
			@Tanjamuse - Unlikely.  Saved Metadata is a copy of the metadata before replace_metadata, include/exclude, etc.  Reversing all that is prohibitively complex. Your request did make me realize something else, though. I've been working on implementing Title Page update as a separate feature, but it's not going to do what many users will expect. Specifically, it occurred to me that the first thing a new user is likely to try with it is changing the Title in Calibre, doing 'Refresh Title Page' and then not understanding why their changed title doesn't appear in the title page. I'm starting to feel the 'correct' answer, if you want to put Calibre metadata/columns into your ebooks, is to use Calibre's built-in metadata jacket. Admittedly, I haven't explored the idea any further than, "yes, metadata jacket is customizable", but it offers some clear advantages--most prominently that can be used on ebooks from other sources and other formats(than epub). | 
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