EU wants IA to take down entire Project Gutenberg archive

Abzeronow · 04-11-2019, 03:27 PM

This is madness and shows a trend to increasing geoblocking.

https://boingboing.net/2019/04/11/one-hour-service.html

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In the past week, Europol and the French government's L’Office Central de Lutte contre la Criminalité liée aux Technologies de l’Information et de la Communication (OCLCTIC) have sent 500 "terrorism" takedown demands to the Internet Archive demanding the removal of tens of millions of works: the entire archive of Project Gutenberg; an archive of 15 million texts, the entire Grateful Dead archive, the Prelinger Archive of public domain industrial films (much beloved by the MTV generation as they were the source of the channels classic interstitial animations), and the Archive's collection of recordings from CSPAN.

The Internet Archive and Project Gutenberg are probably going to have to just block the entire EU so requests like this can be avoided.

Greg Anos · 04-11-2019, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Abzeronow

This is madness and shows a trend to increasing geoblocking.

https://boingboing.net/2019/04/11/one-hour-service.html

The Internet Archive and Project Gutenberg are probably going to have to just block the entire EU so requests like this can be avoided.

So much for the Global Village. . . .

j.p.s · 04-11-2019, 07:26 PM

The EU contacted the IA to say that it is not the EU, but the French government that issued the take down.

But it seems to me that issuing a "terrorist takedown" notice for material that is not terrorist is itself and act of terrorism.

binaryhermit · 04-11-2019, 09:47 PM

The "Grateful Dead" live recording archive got struck too.

EDIT: Which is madness too

Greg Anos · 04-11-2019, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by binaryhermit

The "Grateful Dead" live recording archive got struck too.

EDIT: Which is madness too

West L.A. Fade away . . . .

frahse · 04-12-2019, 02:36 AM

Yes Madness!

Greg Anos · 04-12-2019, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by frahse

Yes Madness!

France is being Yesterday's Men. . .

pwalker8 · 04-12-2019, 07:14 AM

Yep, the regulators are determined to kill the golden goose.

Greg Anos · 04-12-2019, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pwalker8

Yep, the regulators are determined to kill the golden goose.

Because it's not their goose.

Apache · 04-12-2019, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward

Because it's not their goose.

I think they are determined to make Pâté out of this.
Apache

Apparition B5 · 04-12-2019, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward

So much for the Global Village. . . .

The Global Village died a while ago. The Internet is well on its way into fracturing to multiple nets. One controlled by China, another by Europe, a third by Russia, and a fourth by the U.S. This is just one more step towards it.

haertig · 04-12-2019, 01:26 PM

What a brilliant law they have made and are trying to enforce. Stuff like this proves that politicians are just plain stupid, no matter what country they are in.

Greg Anos · 04-12-2019, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by haertig

What a brilliant law they have made and are trying to enforce. Stuff like this proves that politicians are just plain stupid, no matter what country they are in.

Politician - n: an intellectually sterile cross between the morals of Peg Bundy and the intellect of Homer Simpson. . .

Zetmolm · 04-13-2019, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by haertig

Stuff like this proves that politicians are just plain stupid, no matter what country they are in.

What does that say about the people who elect these politicians???

hollowpoint · 04-13-2019, 11:00 AM

What's not clear is WHY the French classified the content in question as 'terrorist.' Some examples are linked on the IA blog.

This fits the trend of trying to regulate the Internet. The Chinese have done it for years but way more extreme. The EU has already been doing it. The UK just got on board with their 'Duty of Care' regulation. They claim it's for public safety and cite easy examples of terrorist and illegal activity that nobody will disagree with. But you can already prosecute those illegal things under existing laws. The powers that the EU and UK are giving themselves to regulate online content, are almost unlimited. They won't start out that way, but in the future almost anything they want can be defined as unsafe. This kind of national-level censorship risks fragmenting the Internet into the 'splinternet.'

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04-11-2019, 07:26 PM	#3
j.p.s Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,768 Karma: 103362673 Join Date: Apr 2011 Device: pb360	The EU contacted the IA to say that it is not the EU, but the French government that issued the take down. But it seems to me that issuing a "terrorist takedown" notice for material that is not terrorist is itself and act of terrorism.

04-11-2019, 09:47 PM	#4
binaryhermit Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,732 Karma: 20469902 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Lockport, IL Device: Kindle PW4, Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition	The "Grateful Dead" live recording archive got struck too. EDIT: Which is madness too

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frahse occasional author Posts: 2,315 Karma: 2064403292 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Wandering God's glorious hills, valleys and plains. Device: A Franklin BI (before Internet) was the first. I still have it.	Yes Madness!

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pwalker8 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,196 Karma: 70314280 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Pro, iPad mini, Kobo Aura, Amazon paperwhite, Sony PRS-T2	Yep, the regulators are determined to kill the golden goose.

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haertig Wizard Posts: 1,891 Karma: 31522252 Join Date: Sep 2017 Device: PW3, Fire HD8 Gen7, Moto G7, Sansa Clip v2, Ruizu X26	What a brilliant law they have made and are trying to enforce. Stuff like this proves that politicians are just plain stupid, no matter what country they are in.

04-13-2019, 11:00 AM	#15
hollowpoint Groupie Posts: 155 Karma: 6672188 Join Date: Apr 2019 Device: Ipad Mini, Kindle PW5, Libra 2	What's not clear is WHY the French classified the content in question as 'terrorist.' Some examples are linked on the IA blog. This fits the trend of trying to regulate the Internet. The Chinese have done it for years but way more extreme. The EU has already been doing it. The UK just got on board with their 'Duty of Care' regulation. They claim it's for public safety and cite easy examples of terrorist and illegal activity that nobody will disagree with. But you can already prosecute those illegal things under existing laws. The powers that the EU and UK are giving themselves to regulate online content, are almost unlimited. They won't start out that way, but in the future almost anything they want can be defined as unsafe. This kind of national-level censorship risks fragmenting the Internet into the 'splinternet.'

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