Wiki Nitpick

BetterRed · 03-13-2019, 05:10 PM

To much of the world a date written as '3/8/2019' refers to the '3rd of August 2019', I suggest using 'Mar 8 2019' to remove ambiguity, or 'Aug 3 2019' if that's what you mean.

BR

DiapDealer · 03-13-2019, 05:32 PM

Of course I don't mean August. As you well know, this is a very recent event. Happening right now, in fact. I have no problem deciphering the rest of the world's date format when it differs from my own. I trust the rest of the world is equally capable of deciphering mine. Especially if they're in the habit of visiting the Github Wiki of an open-source software project that has an international user-base.

Just remember ... you're the one who labeled it a "nitpick"

exaltedwombat · 03-13-2019, 05:44 PM

Good point though. Whenever I see a numbers-only date format, I have to decide whether it uses the (logical) small - bigger - biggest convention or the (illogical, American) bigger - small - biggest one. And context doesn't always help.

Similar confusions (think Imperial/Metric) have killed people.

DiapDealer · 03-13-2019, 06:45 PM

I sleep comfortably in the knowledge that Sigil's Wiki has been optimized to cause the very least amount of accidental loss of life as possible.

In all seriousness, though, folks ... the dates themselves are the very least important portions of the notices. Even if the dates get interpreted incorrectly, the instructions and the messages stay exactly the same.

exaltedwombat · 03-13-2019, 07:35 PM

OK, you're determined to stick with the ambiguous date format. Noted.

DiapDealer · 03-13-2019, 07:54 PM

I'm determined to not worry about inane minutiae.

DNSB · 03-13-2019, 10:49 PM

No hope of considering 2019-03-13 as the date format? Or even 2019-Mar-13 just to ensure no ambiguity.

AlanHK · 03-14-2019, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I'm determined to not worry about inane minutiae.

Most of the time it's clear from context. Sometimes though it isn't, and you may not realise a message is six months old (3-9 is March or September?) and superseded.
Same as when Americans use Fahrenheit for temperatures. 25 degrees is cold? A nice day at the beach here.
Also, you drive on the wrong side of the road.

DiapDealer · 03-14-2019, 06:26 AM

Tired of this. The date is so irrelevant to the message that I'm just going to delete them entirely. How important can the ambiguity of the date format be if I can safely do that? Well the answer is, of course, not important at all. Not even a tiny bit. Thank you all for this utterly pointless exercise. It's been so much fun, and such a great use of my unlimited time for working on Sigil and generally supporting its user-base.

03-13-2019, 05:10 PM	#1
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 21,612 Karma: 29710338 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	Wiki Nitpick To much of the world a date written as '3/8/2019' refers to the '3rd of August 2019', I suggest using 'Mar 8 2019' to remove ambiguity, or 'Aug 3 2019' if that's what you mean. BR

03-13-2019, 05:32 PM	#2
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,352 Karma: 203720150 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Of course I don't mean August. As you well know, this is a very recent event. Happening right now, in fact. I have no problem deciphering the rest of the world's date format when it differs from my own. I trust the rest of the world is equally capable of deciphering mine. Especially if they're in the habit of visiting the Github Wiki of an open-source software project that has an international user-base. Just remember ... you're the one who labeled it a "nitpick" Last edited by DiapDealer; 03-13-2019 at 06:41 PM.

03-13-2019, 06:45 PM	#4
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,352 Karma: 203720150 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I sleep comfortably in the knowledge that Sigil's Wiki has been optimized to cause the very least amount of accidental loss of life as possible. In all seriousness, though, folks ... the dates themselves are the very least important portions of the notices. Even if the dates get interpreted incorrectly, the instructions and the messages stay exactly the same. Last edited by DiapDealer; 03-13-2019 at 06:58 PM.

03-14-2019, 06:26 AM	#9
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,352 Karma: 203720150 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Tired of this. The date is so irrelevant to the message that I'm just going to delete them entirely. How important can the ambiguity of the date format be if I can safely do that? Well the answer is, of course, not important at all. Not even a tiny bit. Thank you all for this utterly pointless exercise. It's been so much fun, and such a great use of my unlimited time for working on Sigil and generally supporting its user-base. Last edited by DiapDealer; 03-14-2019 at 10:06 AM.

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03-13-2019, 05:44 PM	#3
exaltedwombat Guru Posts: 878 Karma: 2457540 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: none	Good point though. Whenever I see a numbers-only date format, I have to decide whether it uses the (logical) small - bigger - biggest convention or the (illogical, American) bigger - small - biggest one. And context doesn't always help. Similar confusions (think Imperial/Metric) have killed people.

03-13-2019, 07:35 PM	#5
exaltedwombat Guru Posts: 878 Karma: 2457540 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: none	OK, you're determined to stick with the ambiguous date format. Noted.

03-13-2019, 07:54 PM	#6
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,352 Karma: 203720150 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I'm determined to not worry about inane minutiae.

03-13-2019, 10:49 PM	#7
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 44,660 Karma: 168431851 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	No hope of considering 2019-03-13 as the date format? Or even 2019-Mar-13 just to ensure no ambiguity.