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Old 03-05-2009, 01:12 PM   #61
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It is a short story, so hopefully by tomorrow evening I will finish it then back to Liveship Traders.
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Old 03-05-2009, 01:19 PM   #62
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I found the first, maybe, 2 or 3 books good - but then the overall franchise no longer 'gelled' with me for some reason ....
I only read the original Dune books written by Frank Herbert, so can't comment on
the later additions to the series. I agree that the first couple were not too bad, especially the first. It's possible that the later ones written by Brian Herbert are
written in a different style, and would be more enjoyable for me.
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Old 03-05-2009, 05:27 PM   #63
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After reading through other peoples' posts I kept saying "Oh yeah, I didn't care for that book either." I found Walden pretty boring as he keeps saying the same things over and over again. I liked Civil Disobedience though (it was short). I also read the Hobbit and liked it, so I started Lord of the Rings and just couldn't finish it. Tried reading the Bible as a teenager -- didn't finish.

Books I've slogged through and finished even though I was just reading to finish it --
To the Lighthouse by Virginia Woolf
Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner
On the Road by Jack Kerouac
Angela's Ashes by Frank McCourt
Frankenstein by Dean Koontz

I liked some of these books, On the Road in particular, they just started getting long and monotonous after awhile (like Walden). However, I couldn't stand Virginia Woolf and wish I would have just stopped reading. I also won't read another book by Dean Koontz -- I just couldn't wait to get to the end of the book -- horrible.
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Old 03-06-2009, 04:26 AM   #64
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Ah - one from my weak memory ....

"Shardik" by Richard Adams ....
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Old 03-06-2009, 09:10 AM   #65
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Ah - one from my weak memory ....

"Shardik" by Richard Adams ....
You're a better man than I, Geoff. After Watership Down, I thought I'd found a new author to absorb every word. Then I started reading Shardik. There were actual dents in the wall from every time I tried to get into that book.
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Old 03-06-2009, 09:14 AM   #66
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Shardik? Was it a name of Bear from the Dark Tower?
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Old 03-06-2009, 09:16 AM   #67
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Honestly, I do. I've enjoyed the Dickens books I've read on my K1, and right now, I'm finding that Dumas wrote page-turners! I think that many people get turned off of the "classics" when they're forced to read them in high school, before they have the maturity or depth to really understand them.
I couldn't agree more. Dickens is not a children's author; one has to be an adult to appreciate his satire and wit.
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Shardik? Was it a name of Bear from the Dark Tower?
Shardik was a bear - but I think the one you are referring to was from a Stephen King novel ...
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Old 03-06-2009, 09:34 AM   #69
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Okay, I just finished Edison's Conquest of Mars. It did turn out to be a lot like watching a Flash Gordon movie serial, in terms of its "quaint" ideas about Mars and technology, and in its melodramatic storyline. Even beyond the Victorian cadence, which I wrestle through regardless, I just found myself struggling to finish this one, hoping I'd find a diamond in the rough in there somewhere.

On the other hand... reading it tended to remind me that a great deal of our present science fiction (cough!-Star Trek!-cough!), mine included, will be considered equally as "quaint" to future readers. It gives one pause to consider what of our current writing will transcend the present age, and what will end up in history's discard bins...
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There were a few books in high school that I finished because I had to: four Faulkner novels that turned me off Faulkner forever (don't remember their titles; can't read Faulkner again because I might start one of them.)

But the one that pops to mind at the moment is _There Will Be Dragons_ by John Ringo. Completely terrible. Total failure to think through the obvious social consequences of his technology, seriously degrading to women, Mary Sue main character and--where I'd been hoping that the characters I cared about might actually play a significant role in the final struggle--they got shoved off to the side.

Bleagh. Cured me forever of even considering a book with that author's name on the cover.
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The Sea Wolf - Jack London (I was in the 3rd grade when I read it. Too much philosophy for a 9-10 year old)
The Mysterious Island - Jules Verne (I was in the 5th grade when I read this one)

Both are currently loaded on my Sony and I have every intention of giving them another chance since it's been over 20 years since I've read them.
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Old 03-06-2009, 10:08 AM   #72
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There were a few books in high school that I finished because I had to: four Faulkner novels that turned me off Faulkner forever (don't remember their titles; can't read Faulkner again because I might start one of them.)

But the one that pops to mind at the moment is _There Will Be Dragons_ by John Ringo. Completely terrible. Total failure to think through the obvious social consequences of his technology, seriously degrading to women, Mary Sue main character and--where I'd been hoping that the characters I cared about might actually play a significant role in the final struggle--they got shoved off to the side.

Bleagh. Cured me forever of even considering a book with that author's name on the cover.
Isn't _There Will Be Dragons_ one of Ringo's novels that he claims he only writes because he sells copies, but is disgusted with the story and character? I remember reading an interview about that. He has a series that started with him writing something to get the "Shit" out of his brain so he could write something else, shelved it as a bad go, and only brought it out because he mentioned he had something at a conference and everyone wanted to read it. Then everyone bought it . Then everyone demanded a replay. If you read it as parody and like a "Colbert Report" take on the world, maby it wouldn't be as grim.
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Shardik was a bear - but I think the one you are referring to was from a Stephen King novel ...
Yup, Stephen King's The Dark Tower series.
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Old 03-06-2009, 03:28 PM   #74
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The Sea Wolf - Jack London (I was in the 3rd grade when I read it. Too much philosophy for a 9-10 year old)
Forcing kids to read Faulkner (unless a short story) in high school or The Sea Wolf in 3rd grade is nuts. This will just turn kids off reading.
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As an English major, I had to slog through a lot of books I hated. However, the absolute all-time worst that I did force myself to finish is Gone With The Wind. The writing is sappy, the characters are repugnant. . .and I have encountered waaaaaay too many people who seem to think it's non-fiction!
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