Kindle firmware version 5.10.3

[Braid]

My Kobo devices page displays looks like... 'Page 24 of 127'. I have never wanted to change it to anything else, because it is the obvious best way to display progress. I know it is not accurate/consistent - that doesn't matter. It is what I prefer. I wish amazon would add the option to use this page display setting, because it seems really easy to implement. I find their page number+percentage view inferior. I also wish people would stop explaining to me that the page number display is not accurate/consistent/whatever lol.

[NiLuJe]

@niftium: Nope, it's just the usual FW 5.10.x snafu because you were using an "old" JB/hotfix/bridge.

I've just manually rebuilt it, hopefully without bypassing anything my usual build procedure handles automatically . That should get you back on track.

[niftium]

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

@niftium: Nope, it's just the old FW 5.10.x snafu because you were using an "old" JB/hotfix/bridge.

I've just manually rebuilt it, hopefully without bypassing anything my usual build procedure handles automatically . That should get you back on track.

Holy mother of pearl, I'm back in business with all of the latest snapshot versions of the packages I love. Thank you very much!

And back OT for a second: the 5.10.3 update does seem to speed up page turns. I was skeptical, but I couldn't resist.

[NullNix]

My meaningless unscientific impression is that battery drain rate is much better on this firmware release on my Oasis 1, comparable to 5.9.7 again. (However, it might just be that they've fixed the *meter*, since as noted in a previous post 5.10.2 started screaming about how it had no power left in the internal battery after about an hour... and then kept right on working for another eight, as long as you were willing to put up with it screaming at you about how it had no power every five minutes.)

[Futuregrace]

Originally Posted by Braid

My Kobo devices page displays looks like... 'Page 24 of 127'. I have never wanted to change it to anything else, because it is the obvious best way to display progress. I know it is not accurate/consistent - that doesn't matter. It is what I prefer. I wish amazon would add the option to use this page display setting, because it seems really easy to implement. I find their page number+percentage view inferior. I also wish people would stop explaining to me that the page number display is not accurate/consistent/whatever lol.

Yes! Agree 100%

[Lordblacknail]

hot damn!!!! Did anyone else see that the software for Oasis 9th generation is listed but not hyperlinked???? I can only hope that means there is a new Oasis in the pipeline.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Braid

My Kobo devices page displays looks like... 'Page 24 of 127'. I have never wanted to change it to anything else, because it is the obvious best way to display progress. I know it is not accurate/consistent - that doesn't matter. It is what I prefer. I wish amazon would add the option to use this page display setting, because it seems really easy to implement. I find their page number+percentage view inferior. I also wish people would stop explaining to me that the page number display is not accurate/consistent/whatever lol.

At least you see the correlation between, "It is what I prefer,"and "...it is the obvious best way to display progress." I certainly wouldn't argue about what you prefer. Now, whether or not that is obviously superior is a different matter.

Of course, while I prefer a percentage I would never argue that showing a percentage is obviously the best way. I like Amazon having options.

[Braid]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Of course, while I prefer a percentage I would never argue that showing a percentage is obviously the best way. I like Amazon having options.

I did not mean to 'argue' that it is the best way. I stated that it is the best way. This was not to try to persuade anyone to see things the way I see them. Rather, it was to communicate my perception of this way of displaying progress: it is the obvious best way. I am sorry if you felt I was overly making bold claims/arguments. Sometimes I like or dislike a feature because of some particularity or idiosyncrasy in how I read ebooks... other times I perceive a certain way of doing things as being the obvious easiest/simplest/most intuitive solution, and I perceive many others to share my opinion. This is not an extraneous detail to me: if I feel that a feature should obviously be this or that way, it affects how I enjoy using the device. Therefore, I feel that it can be relevant on a forum like this to share with others not only my unique preferences, but also my perception of features of e-readers.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Braid

I did not mean to 'argue' that it is the best way. I stated that it is the best way. This was not to try to persuade anyone to see things the way I see them. Rather, it was to communicate my perception of this way of displaying progress: it is the obvious best way. I am sorry if you felt I was overly making bold claims/arguments. Sometimes I like or dislike a feature because of some particularity or idiosyncrasy in how I read ebooks... other times I perceive a certain way of doing things as being the obvious easiest/simplest/most intuitive solution, and I perceive many others to share my opinion. This is not an extraneous detail to me: if I feel that a feature should obviously be this or that way, it affects how I enjoy using the device. Therefore, I feel that it can be relevant on a forum like this to share with others not only my unique preferences, but also my perception of features of e-readers.

I have to say that I completely disagree.

When you look at a bookmark in a physical book, you gauge your progress through the book in percentage terms: you think "that bookmark is about three quarters of the way through the book". You don't think "that bookmark looks as if it's on page 257 out of 343". A percentage is, to my mind, a more "natural" method of gauging progress.

[Braid]

Originally Posted by HarryT

I have to say that I completely disagree.

When you look at a bookmark in a physical book, you gauge your progress through the book in percentage terms: you think "that bookmark is about three quarters of the way through the book". You don't think "that bookmark looks as if it's on page 257 out of 343". A percentage is, to my mind, a more "natural" method of gauging progress.

You don't seem to be disagreeing with the main points of the post you've quoted. Aside from that, yeah, the percentage display may be the preference for many people, for any number of reasons, and for those people it feels just as 'natural' and 'obvious' as my preferences feel to me. I welcome the percentage display as an option.

[jhowell]

Originally Posted by Lordblacknail

hot damn!!!! Did anyone else see that the software for Oasis 9th generation is listed but not hyperlinked???? I can only hope that means there is a new Oasis in the pipeline.

The download is linked on the Kindle Oasis (9th Generation) Software Updates page. That is where I first noticed the 5.10.3 update.

[John F]

Originally Posted by Braid

You don't seem to be disagreeing with the main points of the post you've quoted. Aside from that, yeah, the percentage display may be the preference for many people, for any number of reasons, and for those people it feels just as 'natural' and 'obvious' as my preferences feel to me. I welcome the percentage display as an option.

Page x of y is definitely superior to percent. Percent doesn't give an indication of how long the book is. To get an equivalent, you would need x% of y pages.


IMO, YMMV.

[jhowell]

The 5.10.3 firmware apparently includes a new feature that is not yet activated:

You can now filter your library to see only read or unread books. Books that appear to have been completed are automatically marked as read.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by HarryT

I have to say that I completely disagree.

When you look at a bookmark in a physical book, you gauge your progress through the book in percentage terms: you think "that bookmark is about three quarters of the way through the book". You don't think "that bookmark looks as if it's on page 257 out of 343". A percentage is, to my mind, a more "natural" method of gauging progress.

Originally Posted by John F

Page x of y is definitely superior to percent. Percent doesn't give an indication of how long the book is. To get an equivalent, you would need x% of y pages.


IMO, YMMV.

I do agree that % is useless if you cannot see how long the book is. Using the pBooks analogy, when you look where your bookmark is, you also see the size of the book and can then estimate how far along you are and how much left you have. With an eBook, you don't see how large the book is so you don't know what the % means in terms of how much you've read and how much you've left. The problem with Kindles is that page numbers are meaningless because they can be set to just about anything. With Calibre, I can set any page number and Calibre will make a page number file to make that work. Amazon does the same thing with page number to fit some version pBook.

[SeaBookGuy]

I hope this does not work like the Audible app, where the default is to see all books, so every time you want to consult a library, it's necessary to switch over to "hide finish titles."