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Old 02-08-2019, 11:27 AM   #1411
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I had an Uncle on the CVE9 USS Boge. It was a Jeep Carrier in a Sub Hunter Killer Group. They even got a Presidential Unit Citation for sinking & or 8 (not sure) German Subs in less than a week. My father in Law started out the war on a destroyer doing convoy duty in the North Atlantis before being transferred to the Pacific.
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Thanks, great link!

There are several Kindle books on escort carrier operations. This one, while still fairly spendy, is actually at a 50% off the steep regular digital price:

Hunter-Killer: U.S. Escort Carriers in the Battle of the Atlantic by William T. Y'Blood
https://www.amazon.ca/Hunter-Killer-.../dp/B009SC9RTQ

Goodreads page:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/....Hunter_Killer

The same author has a well-regarded book on escort carriers in the Pacific, also at 50% off the steep regular digital price:
The Little Giants: U.S. Escort Carriers Against Japan by William T. Y'Blood
https://www.amazon.ca/Little-Giants-.../dp/B009SC1O88

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Everyone should read about Task Unit 77.4.3 ("Taffy 3") off Samar Island. They consisted of 6 CVE Escort Carriers, 3 Destroyers and 4 Destroyer Escorts. They attacked 23 Japanese Ships including Destroyers, Cruisers and Battleships, including the Yamato. While the Carriers fled and launched planes the Destroyers and DE's and planes attacked. The planes continued to harass the Japanese ships even after they ran out of bombs and ammo. They succeeded in driving off the Japanese while loosing two CVE's, 2 DD's and One DE. All of the surviving ships were damaged. An amazing story of heroism in the face of overwhelming odds.
If you can find a copy you should read: United States Destroyer Action in World War II by Theodore Roscoe. This book is a history of every battle the included Destroyers in WWII. The narration of the Battle of Samar Island is just one of the many Naval Battles of WWII.
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I had an Uncle on the CVE9 USS Boge. It was a Jeep Carrier in a Sub Hunter Killer Group. They even got a Presidential Unit Citation for sinking & or 8 (not sure) German Subs in less than a week. My father in Law started out the war on a destroyer doing convoy duty in the North Atlantis before being transferred to the Pacific.
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I know "jeep carrier" better by the name of "escort carrier." They were smaller--much smaller, I think--than the carriers ("fleet" carriers) that we usually hear or read about.

I didn't realize that jeep/escort carriers did sub hunting, or that they carried airplanes that were well suited to that task. I think that most of those carriers were in the Pacific Theater; if I am correct about that, any sub hunting that they would have been doing, of course, would have been of Japanese subs.

You certainly have reasons to be proud of your relatives' service, IMHO. I agree with Tom Brokaw's assessment of them being a part of the "Greatest Generation."

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Everyone should read about Task Unit 77.4.3 ("Taffy 3") off Samar Island. They consisted of 6 CVE Escort Carriers, 3 Destroyers and 4 Destroyer Escorts. They attacked 23 Japanese Ships including Destroyers, Cruisers and Battleships, including the Yamato. While the Carriers fled and launched planes the Destroyers and DE's and planes attacked. The planes continued to harass the Japanese ships even after they ran out of bombs and ammo. They succeeded in driving off the Japanese while loosing two CVE's, 2 DD's and One DE. All of the surviving ships were damaged. An amazing story of heroism in the face of overwhelming odds.
If you can find a copy you should read: United States Destroyer Action in World War II by Theodore Roscoe. This book is a history of every battle the included Destroyers in WWII. The narration of the Battle of Samar Island is just one of the many Naval Battles of WWII.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_off_Samar
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To try to keep us at least somewhat on topic , U.S. submarines were a significant part of the numerous battles that went on then, over I think a 3-day or so period. I think that they may have destroyed and/or damaged some Japanese military "capital" ships.

In a kind of reversal of roles, American submarines took an enormous toll on Japanese shipping, as the Germans did on American/British shipping (for two main periods during WWII). The big difference is that the Americans/British found answers to their sub problem; the Japanese never did find answers to their sub problem.

A 2-volume set of books on the work of American submarines in WWII is The Silent Service. I have not read these, but I have heard good things about them. I suggest that you check the ratings/reviews at Amazon and/or GoodReads, for better information than that.

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Thanks, great link!

There are several Kindle books on escort carrier operations. This one, while still fairly spendy, is actually at a 50% off the steep regular digital price:

Hunter-Killer: U.S. Escort Carriers in the Battle of the Atlantic by William T. Y'Blood
https://www.amazon.ca/Hunter-Killer-.../dp/B009SC9RTQ

Goodreads page:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/....Hunter_Killer

The same author has a well-regarded book on escort carriers in the Pacific, also at 50% off the steep regular digital price:
The Little Giants: U.S. Escort Carriers Against Japan by William T. Y'Blood
https://www.amazon.ca/Little-Giants-.../dp/B009SC1O88

Goodreads page:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...-little-giants
Thanks for the great-looking bibliography, above, on the subject.
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I know "jeep carrier" better by the name of "escort carrier." They were smaller--much smaller, I think--than the carriers ("fleet" carriers) that we usually hear or read about.

I didn't realize that jeep/escort carriers did sub hunting, or that they carried airplanes that were well suited to that task. I think that most of those carriers were in the Pacific Theater; if I am correct about that, any sub hunting that they would have been doing, of course, would have been of Japanese subs.

You certainly have reasons to be proud of your relatives' service, IMHO. I agree with Tom Brokaw's assessment of them being a part of the "Greatest Generation."
Actually most of the Hunter/Killer Groups operated in the Atlantic. The German Wolf Packs were a greater threat to the convoys that were trying to keep Britain and Russia supplied. The Jeep Carriers in the Pacific were mostly relegated to resupplying the Fast Attack Carriers and the island based Marine, Navy and AAF with planes and pilots. They were also tasked with most of the ground attack missions during the island hopping campaign.
Read Rear Admiral Daniel V. Gallery's Clear the Decks and U-505. He boarded and captured the German U-boat 505 in June of 1944. The first person to have done so since 1815.
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The Tangled Tree: A Radical New History of Life

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The Tangled Tree: A Radical New History of Life by David Quammen

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I read this last summer/fall and really enjoyed it. It lays out the changing understanding of the evolutionary "tree of life" from Darwin to present. (If you aren't going to read this book, you should at least read up on why bacteria evolve much faster than is explainable by their fast replication.)

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Today only on amazon.com for $4.99 (kinda high for a bargain, I know), usually $14.99

The Tangled Tree: A Radical New History of Life by David Quammen

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075RX2QY4/

I read this last summer/fall and really enjoyed it. It lays out the changing understanding of the evolutionary "tree of life" from Darwin to present. (If you aren't going to read this book, you should at least read up on why bacteria evolve much faster than is explainable by their fast replication.)
Looking at that book brought up another. Dr. Frank Ryan Virolution for $1.99. We've gone viral.
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Today only on amazon.com for $4.99 (kinda high for a bargain, I know), usually $14.99

The Tangled Tree: A Radical New History of Life by David Quammen

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075RX2QY4/

I read this last summer/fall and really enjoyed it. It lays out the changing understanding of the evolutionary "tree of life" from Darwin to present. (If you aren't going to read this book, you should at least read up on why bacteria evolve much faster than is explainable by their fast replication.)
Still on sale 1:36 a.m. Monday morning EST.

I snatched it up. I don't know when I'm going to have time to read it. Ironically, I might need to use some of my MobileRead time for it.

Yeah, $4.99 is a little steep for an ebook that I will buy. But I try to consider "bang for the buck." I consider 1 cent per page to be a great deal--299 pages would be $2.99, for example. This tome is just short of 500 pages, so $4.99 is still a great deal, in my way of thinking.
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Yes, $4.99 is a bargain for an ebook by Quammen - it's $20 at amazon.ca, otherwise I would have snapped it up in an instant.
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