PW4 Unacceptable Hyphenation

Dee Q · 11-28-2018, 12:18 AM

Does anyone have this same experience? At least I found one person on Reddit with the same problem. Look how words appear to be randomly hyphenated. My PW2 with the same font setting does not have this problem.
Hope it will be fixed in the next firmware update. :'(

HarryT · 11-28-2018, 04:41 AM

The hyphenation points seem entirely reasonable to me.

stuartjmz · 11-28-2018, 05:03 AM

I see no issue at all with the hyphenations shown. "Improve-ments" and "credit-able" in particular are not merely acceptable, but optimal it seems to me. What is your issue with them?

kript96 · 11-28-2018, 05:58 AM

Yeah my old kindle didn't support kfx and i really like to have hyphenation, i found no problem in your screenshot

patrickt · 11-28-2018, 06:46 AM

My Kindle hyphenates and I have no problem with it. I can remember when Kindles didn't hyphenate words and that was a problem.

HarryT · 11-28-2018, 11:52 AM

It would be helpful if the original poster could elaborate on what specific aspect of the hyphenation they find unacceptable.

Shad Plante · 11-28-2018, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

It would be helpful if the original poster could elaborate on what specific aspect of the hyphenation they find unacceptable.

Agreed, taking a closer look at the sample, the OP's problem could be words that aren't being hyphenated instead of words that are.

frostschutz · 11-28-2018, 07:07 PM

the—shire (second to last line) looks strange but that's probably the fault of the book, not the Kindle. There should be a space, and maybe a different kind of dash character...

stuartjmz · 11-28-2018, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by frostschutz

the—shire (second to last line) looks strange but that's probably the fault of the book, not the Kindle. There should be a space, and maybe a different kind of dash character...

That "shire" isn't hyphenated, though. That's am em dash, or maybe an en dash, and there's no spacing at all. To me, it looks more like the sort of dash used to replace a name, as in "—Smith"

HarryT · 11-29-2018, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by stuartjmz

That "shire" isn't hyphenated, though. That's am em dash, or maybe an en dash, and there's no spacing at all. To me, it looks more like the sort of dash used to replace a name, as in "—Smith"

That's exactly what it is, yes. There should be a space before it.

marrco · 12-02-2018, 04:33 AM

only hyphenation error (but not in this example) that comes to my mind is hyphenating the last word before a page break. But even there I'm not really sure that violates some style manual, and that's probably just a matter of taste.

HarryT · 12-02-2018, 05:45 AM

It's a pity that the OP hasn't come back and told us what it is that he finds objectionable.

stumped · 12-02-2018, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

It's a pity that the OP hasn't come back and told us what it is that he finds objectionable.

He claimed in post 1 that the pw4 hyphenates differently to the pw2.
I am not aware of Amazon changing the kindle hyphenation engine though, no mention of that in any reviews?

stuartjmz · 12-02-2018, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by stumped

He claimed in post 1 that the pw4 hyphenates differently to the pw2.

They also said "look how..." and offered the screenshot as proof. Proof whose validity has so far not been obvious to all who have replied to the OP.

11-28-2018, 12:18 AM	#1
Dee Q Born Yesterday Posts: 134 Karma: 2744112 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Vietnam Device: Kobo Libra 2 & Kindle Scribe & Kindle 2022	PW4 Unacceptable Hyphenation Does anyone have this same experience? At least I found one person on Reddit with the same problem. Look how words appear to be randomly hyphenated. My PW2 with the same font setting does not have this problem. Hope it will be fixed in the next firmware update. :'( Attached Thumbnails

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	The hyphenation points seem entirely reasonable to me.

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11-28-2018, 05:58 AM	#4
kript96 Connoisseur Posts: 74 Karma: 6626 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Italy Device: Kindle 4, Kindle base 2024, Kindle Scribe	Yeah my old kindle didn't support kfx and i really like to have hyphenation, i found no problem in your screenshot

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patrickt Wizard Posts: 1,221 Karma: 8381518 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oaxaca, Mexico Device: Paperwhite 4 X 2	My Kindle hyphenates and I have no problem with it. I can remember when Kindles didn't hyphenate words and that was a problem.

11-28-2018, 11:52 AM	#6
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	It would be helpful if the original poster could elaborate on what specific aspect of the hyphenation they find unacceptable.

11-28-2018, 07:07 PM	#8
frostschutz Linux User Posts: 2,282 Karma: 6123806 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Device: none	the—shire (second to last line) looks strange but that's probably the fault of the book, not the Kindle. There should be a space, and maybe a different kind of dash character...

12-02-2018, 04:33 AM	#11
marrco Enthusiast Posts: 42 Karma: 20 Join Date: Aug 2015 Device: kindle pw4	only hyphenation error (but not in this example) that comes to my mind is hyphenating the last word before a page break. But even there I'm not really sure that violates some style manual, and that's probably just a matter of taste.

12-02-2018, 05:45 AM	#12
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	It's a pity that the OP hasn't come back and told us what it is that he finds objectionable.