George RR Martin - The Winds of Winter - Not coming soon.

[Sarmat89]

Originally Posted by hildea

I think Neil Gaiman said it pretty well in his blog post

No, it is a stupid thing to say. GRRM is a bitch of the people who paid him in a promise he will finish the series. They have a right to receive what they've paid for.

[Abtacha]

What you've paid for is the book you bought, not some hypothetical future installment in the series. If you don't like that you shouldn't be buying books that are part of unfinished series.

[kyrilson]

Originally Posted by GlenBarrington

Agreed! One thing I think this group has overlooked is that this delay is bad for Martin's business, assuming he wants that mythical next book to be successful.

I personally wouldn't buy that book, if it ever shows up, if it were on Kindle Unlimited. I wonder how many other people there are like me? This absurdly long delay has allowed me to learn to let that story go. I just don't care anymore. I have invested all my interest in the TV show and will settle for whatever ending HBO provides. I'm done.

Same here. I lost interest due to the long gap between books. A shame, as the first few were really good. I won't be reading anything else he puts out for Game of Thrones.

[John F]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

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Trivia: name some other Major US/UK book series (whose author was alive and still "writing it") where the television adaptation was allowed to pass it up and spoil the ending for readers.

What true author would allow someone else to present/produce the ending to their life's work, while they still had breath and health to finish it themselves first?

Spoiler:

None that had a true desire to finish it in the first place; is my answer.

It hasn't passed the books yet, but how about CB Strike, J.K. Rowling's series?

[ZodWallop]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

That's a "major" book series?

Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it's not popular.

Akira is one of the greatest manga and animated movies of all time and played a major role in gaining acceptance for manga and anime in the U.S. and elsewhere.

A Big 6 (or one of their imprints) publisher? One out three ain't bad, I guess.

I suppose it's easy to define your way into making your preferred answer the correct one.

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by ZodWallop

I suppose it's easy to define your way into making your preferred answer the correct one.

I didn't move the goalposts. Not my fault if you couldn't find anything within the stated parameters. *shrug*

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by John F

It hasn't passed the books yet

Season 7 already went beyond Martin's timeline in A Dance with Dragons. Wikipedia (and Martin, and HBO) will tell you that it incorporated material Martin revealed to the showrunners about upcoming novels. So yes, it has passed the books. And unless you think Martin can churn out two novels before season 8 (the final season) of the HBO series airs its 6 episodes starting in April, then it (the HBO series) will also conclude generally in the same way that Martin revealed to them that A Dream of Spring would end. This is not speculation on my part. This is common knowledge. HBO will be adapting the end that Martin revealed to them (in fact, all the filming has been complete for quite some time) before the next book in the series hits the bookshelves.

Originally Posted by John F

but how about CB Strike, J.K. Rowling's series?

Three books, three TV adaptations, and a quote from those involved that it could be some time before another season is broadcast stating, "I think they've always been quite clear that they'd never want to write one without basing it on the book. So you've got to wait." So you tell me if that TV show has passed the book series it's based on yet.

[pwalker8]

It's a lot like the old WOT series. People use to complain bitterly about Jordan not finishing that. I suspect that Sanderson may have done a better job finishing that than Jordan would have. Certainly the last couple of Jordan books were not terribly memorable.

I never have gotten interested in the GOT series, the books or the TV series. I really like Rothfuss and will likely buy the third book when/if it ever comes out. Butcher, as I said, churned out a bunch and likely got a bit burned out. The question is, can he rekindle the flame or does he just sort of drift away like so many authors do after 10 -20 years of writing?

[Shad Plante]

As a reader, if you don't like how long Rothfuss or Martin are taking, the most effective thing you can do is move onto other authors. Don't talk about them, recommend their books, or go to their events. Neither of them may be your b*%#, but you don't need to be theirs either.

[Apache]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I'm somewhat the same. Book four was a huge disappointment for me after the wait (like no-one could have told him that leaving everyone's favorite characters out of a book fans had waited 5 years for would be a bit of a mistake ). And book five never did get going for me, so I stopped after a few chapters. I'm done with the book series. I used to enjoy his "Dunk and Egg" novellas much more; but then he hasn't written one of those in--what... seven years or so?

The only difference between you and me, is that I'm done with the TV series as well. Got tired of watching them making it a contest to see just how much boobs and gore could possibly be wedged into the timeslot. Stopped watching about halfway through season four. *yawn* Plus, I'm not willing to encourage authors who've tired of producing their own magnum opuses (yes, I chose that over magna opera) to punt all the heavy lifting to the television execs just because they've grown weary of the slog.

Trivia: name some other Major US/UK book series (whose author was alive and still "writing it") where the television adaptation was allowed to pass it up and spoil the ending for readers.

What true author would allow someone else to present/produce the ending to their life's work, while they still had breath and health to finish it themselves first?

Spoiler:

None that had a true desire to finish it in the first place; is my answer.

Craig Johnson's Longmire Series. I disliked the TV show. I felt like I was watching a soap opera.
Apache

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by Shad Plante

As a reader, if you don't like how long Rothfuss or Martin are taking, the most effective thing you can do is move onto other authors. Don't talk about them, recommend their books, or go to their events. Neither of them may be your b*%#, but you don't need to be theirs either.

I have moved on to other authors. I don't recommend their books, and I've never gone to their (or any other authors') events. I will, however, reserve the right to talk about their unprofessionalism and their penchant for trying to convince fans that they haven't burnt themselves out on their own products.

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by Apache

Craig Johnson's Longmire Series. I disliked the TV show. I felt like I was watching a soap opera.
Apache

I'll give you that one.

Though other than a few themes, arcs, and the character names, there was barely any adherence to the original material, in my opinion. Much like the BBC's Dirk Gently series. I enjoy the heck out of it, but I don't know why they pretend it's an adaptation of the books. it's more like a complete reimagining.

[John F]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Season 7 already went beyond Martin's timeline in A Dance with Dragons. ...

My post was in regards to CB strike; I wasn't referring to A Game of Thrones.

As for the CB Strike series, I haven't heard much about it's future, I just looked on IMDB and saw three seasons, so I assumed (wrongly) that they would be beyond the books "soon".

Thanks for the info.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by John F

As for the CB Strike series, I haven't heard much about it's future, I just looked on IMDB and saw three seasons, so I assumed (wrongly) that they would be beyond the books "soon".

If you’re referring to the BBC adaptations of the Cormaran Strike books, they aren’t “seasons”, but simply two-part (or in the case of the first book, three parts) adaptations of the first three books. I strongly suspect that a TV version of the recently-published fourth book will follow before too long.

An interesting side-note about this: the BBC approached the publisher to negotiate for the TV rights before it was known that “Robert Galbraith” was actually Rowling.

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by John F

My post was in regards to CB strike; I wasn't referring to A Game of Thrones.

Whoops. That's obvious now that you mention it. Sorry about that.