Library books on Kindle

spiegels · 03-02-2009, 10:36 PM

I have borrowed some e-books from my local library and downloaded them in Mobi format. I then used kindlefix to make them readable on my Kindle. Then i used Mobi2Mobi to correct the scrambling of the author's name and title. Using the USB, i dragged them over to my Kindle.

The books now look "normal" on my Kindle and I am enjoying reading them. Since this is the first time I have done this, what will happen at the 15th day to these 14 day rentals?

I'm assuming i have altered the DRM but not removed it by making the book Kindle readable.

Thanks

Steve

Leep · 03-02-2009, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiegels

I have borrowed some e-books from my local library and downloaded them in Mobi format. I then used kindlefix to make them readable on my Kindle. Then i used Mobi2Mobi to correct the scrambling of the author's name and title. Using the USB, i dragged them over to my Kindle.

The books now look "normal" on my Kindle and I am enjoying reading them. Since this is the first time I have done this, what will happen at the 15th day to these 14 day rentals?

I'm assuming i have altered the DRM but not removed it by making the book Kindle readable.

Thanks

Steve

Your books will expire and you will not be able to open them on your Kindle. The one exception to this is that Kindle will not know they have expired unless you turn on Whispernet or hook your Kindle to your computer. So, if you're in the middle of a good book, don't do either of the above until you finish it!

cheers

spiegels · 03-03-2009, 08:29 AM

Leep

Thanks for the response. If the time stamp is not on the file in the Kindle, how would re-connecting allow the expiration to be sent?

Probably obvious to you but not to me.

Thanks again

Steve

Leep · 03-03-2009, 09:58 AM

Kindlefix does not remove the DRM or the date stamp. It just adjusts the format sothat the book can be read on Kindle.

cheers

Nate the great · 03-03-2009, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leep

Your books will expire and you will not be able to open them on your Kindle. The one exception to this is that Kindle will not know they have expired unless you turn on Whispernet or hook your Kindle to your computer. So, if you're in the middle of a good book, don't do either of the above until you finish it!

cheers

I don't think that's true. The Kindle knows the date. Whispernet has nothing to do with whether the ebook expires.

desertgrandma · 03-03-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate the great

I don't think that's true. The Kindle knows the date. Whispernet has nothing to do with whether the ebook expires.

I think when you run Kindlefix, it installs a little man in there.......he knows when the book is expired, and takes it back to the library.

I'm just sayin'.....

spiegels · 03-03-2009, 10:15 AM

Seems plausible; I'll let you know in 12 days what happens.

Leep · 03-03-2009, 10:19 AM

Can't tell you why. Just know that if I've wanted to finish a book that "should have expired", I can still read it until I turn on Whispernet or plug my Kindle into my computer.

cheers

grooks · 03-03-2009, 10:20 AM

Not sure how a date/time stamp works on the Kindle but here is the situation on my Sony.

When I copy a pdf library book to my Sony it will pick up the date/time from the device. The book will automatically expire once the 14 or 21 days has been reached. A small work around that someone pointed out allows me to change the date on my reader which will either reduce/extend the library books expiration date. All of this is assuming I don't connect my reader to my pc and open up ADE (it may sync and tell the ebook the correct date).

InlawBiker · 03-05-2009, 12:11 PM

We are suffering the effects of the ebook market-lock war. I just got a used K1 and wanted to load library books onto it. I managed to get one transferd in about a half hour, but the title is munged and the book won't open. I'm 90% of the way there, but if it's this difficult for every library book I'll probably give up. Amazon only wants you to buy from them. Guess I should have researched more

Greg

pilotbob · 03-05-2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by InlawBiker

I managed to get one transferd in about a half hour, but the title is munged and the book won't open.

If the book won't open you are doing something wrong. It should open even with the bad title. Did you follow the Visual Kindle Guide in our wiki?

As far as editing the Title/Author info, install calibre, import the book into it, edit the information and then "Send to device". Easy peesy.

BOb

spiegels · 03-05-2009, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InlawBiker

We are suffering the effects of the ebook market-lock war. I just got a used K1 and wanted to load library books onto it. I managed to get one transferd in about a half hour, but the title is munged and the book won't open. I'm 90% of the way there, but if it's this difficult for every library book I'll probably give up. Amazon only wants you to buy from them. Guess I should have researched more

Greg

Greg

I agree with Bob. I use Kindlefix and then Mobi2mobi_gui.

Yesterday, I downloaded a book and from the time it hit my computer until it was available to be copied over to my Kindle was 7 minutes and it was only that slow because I went back to amazon's site to get the right title and description type of metadata.

On the bright side, last Friday when I got my Kindle and started working with this it seemed like a frustrating endless task and now it's, let's just say, easy peesy.

Steve

Gee, where did I read that?

InlawBiker · 03-05-2009, 01:39 PM

Yep I followed the Visual Wiki, it was very clearly done. It only took me a half hour because I had to install python, get my PID, etc. So yes I must have done something wrong. I'll try again when I get home and see what happens.

pilotbob · 03-05-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by InlawBiker

Yep I followed the Visual Wiki, it was very clearly done. It only took me a half hour because I had to install python, get my PID, etc. So yes I must have done something wrong. I'll try again when I get home and see what happens.

Ok, let us know how you get along with specific issues you have. I'm sure it's something simple that's missing.

BOb

InlawBiker · 03-05-2009, 08:02 PM

Alright, I tried this again. I used an entirely different computer and went through the process again - installed the python scripts, triple-checked my PID at the library is correct and it matches the kindlepid.py output based on the serial number, which I also double-generated from Amazon.com and the back of the unit itself - the PID is correct.

I still get the message "the selected item could not be opened" on the Kindle. This happens whether I use the Mobi2Mobi rename script or not - which does work by the way.

Ideas... could my firmware upgrade have wrecked this method of reading library Mobi's on the Kindle? I upgraded it to version 1.2 first thing when I got it. I hope this is not the case.

The library also has on file the PID of my Mobipocket Windows software reader. I haven't tried the book on that reader yet, I'll do that when I get a chance.

03-02-2009, 10:36 PM	#1
spiegels lifetime reader Posts: 17 Karma: 45 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hopkinton, MA Device: kindle 2	Library books on Kindle I have borrowed some e-books from my local library and downloaded them in Mobi format. I then used kindlefix to make them readable on my Kindle. Then i used Mobi2Mobi to correct the scrambling of the author's name and title. Using the USB, i dragged them over to my Kindle. The books now look "normal" on my Kindle and I am enjoying reading them. Since this is the first time I have done this, what will happen at the 15th day to these 14 day rentals? I'm assuming i have altered the DRM but not removed it by making the book Kindle readable. Thanks Steve

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03-03-2009, 08:29 AM	#3
spiegels lifetime reader Posts: 17 Karma: 45 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hopkinton, MA Device: kindle 2	Leep Thanks for the response. If the time stamp is not on the file in the Kindle, how would re-connecting allow the expiration to be sent? Probably obvious to you but not to me. Thanks again Steve

03-03-2009, 09:58 AM	#4
Leep Guru Posts: 739 Karma: 1018859 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Near Seattle Device: kindle1, K3, K3G (thanks MR), iTouch, Kindle Touch	Kindlefix does not remove the DRM or the date stamp. It just adjusts the format sothat the book can be read on Kindle. cheers

03-03-2009, 10:15 AM	#7
spiegels lifetime reader Posts: 17 Karma: 45 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hopkinton, MA Device: kindle 2	Seems plausible; I'll let you know in 12 days what happens.

03-03-2009, 10:19 AM	#8
Leep Guru Posts: 739 Karma: 1018859 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Near Seattle Device: kindle1, K3, K3G (thanks MR), iTouch, Kindle Touch	Can't tell you why. Just know that if I've wanted to finish a book that "should have expired", I can still read it until I turn on Whispernet or plug my Kindle into my computer. cheers

03-03-2009, 10:20 AM	#9
grooks Wizard Posts: 1,326 Karma: 30250 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Fort Myers, FL Device: Pocketbook Era, Kobo Forma	Not sure how a date/time stamp works on the Kindle but here is the situation on my Sony. When I copy a pdf library book to my Sony it will pick up the date/time from the device. The book will automatically expire once the 14 or 21 days has been reached. A small work around that someone pointed out allows me to change the date on my reader which will either reduce/extend the library books expiration date. All of this is assuming I don't connect my reader to my pc and open up ADE (it may sync and tell the ebook the correct date).

03-05-2009, 12:11 PM	#10
InlawBiker Connoisseur Posts: 94 Karma: 544 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Seattle WA Device: Kindle 1.0	We are suffering the effects of the ebook market-lock war. I just got a used K1 and wanted to load library books onto it. I managed to get one transferd in about a half hour, but the title is munged and the book won't open. I'm 90% of the way there, but if it's this difficult for every library book I'll probably give up. Amazon only wants you to buy from them. Guess I should have researched more Greg

03-05-2009, 01:39 PM	#13
InlawBiker Connoisseur Posts: 94 Karma: 544 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Seattle WA Device: Kindle 1.0	Yep I followed the Visual Wiki, it was very clearly done. It only took me a half hour because I had to install python, get my PID, etc. So yes I must have done something wrong. I'll try again when I get home and see what happens.

03-05-2009, 08:02 PM	#15
InlawBiker Connoisseur Posts: 94 Karma: 544 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Seattle WA Device: Kindle 1.0	Alright, I tried this again. I used an entirely different computer and went through the process again - installed the python scripts, triple-checked my PID at the library is correct and it matches the kindlepid.py output based on the serial number, which I also double-generated from Amazon.com and the back of the unit itself - the PID is correct. I still get the message "the selected item could not be opened" on the Kindle. This happens whether I use the Mobi2Mobi rename script or not - which does work by the way. Ideas... could my firmware upgrade have wrecked this method of reading library Mobi's on the Kindle? I upgraded it to version 1.2 first thing when I got it. I hope this is not the case. The library also has on file the PID of my Mobipocket Windows software reader. I haven't tried the book on that reader yet, I'll do that when I get a chance.