Fujitsu FLEPia vs. iRex iLiad vs. DR1000 video - Page 2

Over · 02-22-2009, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shousa

Here's a link to the PDFs for the product (I could not find these had been posted before):
http://www.frontech.fujitsu.com/serv...pia/downloads/

Is this easy on the eyes the way my Sony 505 is? (I want this feature - would be a deal maker for me)
Does the screen emit light so can see at night? (I do not want this feature as not good for eyes - would be a deal killer for me)

Prices - according to here (a bit old) http://ameblo.jp/blade-factory/entry-10034258525.html

The smallest one is 2 man 7 sen = around $300 US!!

Anyone know where to buy one? - BTW I have family in Japan

Good question.

manicmarauder · 02-23-2009, 01:40 AM

Hrm. Not sure we got a good enough look to say for contrast. It looks like it paints the screen in multiple passes for the color pictures, and the user in the video clicked the buttons before it was done several times. You can see the buttons appear, and then another 'line' from the next painting pass filling things in and making it sharper. But as the button has already been clicked it bounces off to do something else before you get a good look.

Still, I like the idea of *any* color e-ink device on the market. It means the things we want will be coming eventually.

athlonkmf · 02-23-2009, 03:25 AM

Well, that's one of the colourscreen-contestant in the wild.

According to my calendar, the next wait is for the Pixel Qi's screen off which we should see a prototype in april.
Next would be the colour eink prototype, which we've been hearing off for years.
Then we only have the Qualcomm's technique left, and then the battle can start.

elena · 02-23-2009, 05:16 AM

I wouldn't read on it even if they'd threaten me with a gun... the contrast really sucks!

what's the point in having color with a screen like that? It's just a worse reading experience.

pagansoul · 02-23-2009, 09:00 AM

I think we need a better example. The angle, the not waiting for the pictures to load before the request for zoom, the background noise (ok, the noise just spoils the effect but has nothing to do with how the machine reads/loads). Mostly, the angle. I think b/w will always be more crisp for reading the written word. The color will be more for magazines and such.

pilotbob · 02-23-2009, 09:18 AM

I expect this is a prototype. Would they really bring a product that slow to market?

BOb

giddion · 02-23-2009, 09:25 AM

Looking at the reports and demos I've seen around the web I'd say the display would improve many fold if they just gave it a matte finish.

ProDigit · 02-23-2009, 10:18 AM

I'm glad other manufacturers are trying to get their piece of the cake!

Perhaps if they used a more metallic reflective background, or more like a reflector like background (like on a bike, reflecting the light at a certain angle), the screen would have a better appearance than with a plastic white background...

It's probably a TFT-based screen with no backlight, which could explain the slightly darker tint (plus the touchscreen layer).

PK1 · 02-28-2009, 05:01 PM

I like the looks of DR1000. size is nice

Mr. Dalliard · 03-01-2009, 12:29 AM

Thankfully, the FLEPia will be out of my price range for quite sometime.
By the time I'll be able to afford one, the technology will have progressed far enough to make me want one.

02-23-2009, 09:00 AM	#20
pagansoul Fanatic Posts: 509 Karma: 1098204 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Earth Device: iPhone5, iPad Gen3, Kobo, Kindle Fire, Kobo Vox. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7	I think we need a better example. The angle, the not waiting for the pictures to load before the request for zoom, the background noise (ok, the noise just spoils the effect but has nothing to do with how the machine reads/loads). Mostly, the angle. I think b/w will always be more crisp for reading the written word. The color will be more for magazines and such. Last edited by pagansoul; 02-23-2009 at 09:02 AM.

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manicmarauder Happy Camper Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Device: Sony PRS-505	Hrm. Not sure we got a good enough look to say for contrast. It looks like it paints the screen in multiple passes for the color pictures, and the user in the video clicked the buttons before it was done several times. You can see the buttons appear, and then another 'line' from the next painting pass filling things in and making it sharper. But as the button has already been clicked it bounces off to do something else before you get a good look. Still, I like the idea of any color e-ink device on the market. It means the things we want will be coming eventually.

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athlonkmf Guru Posts: 714 Karma: 1014039 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Sony PRS-500, Sony PRS-505, Kindle 3, Sony PRS350, iPad 64GB	Well, that's one of the colourscreen-contestant in the wild. According to my calendar, the next wait is for the Pixel Qi's screen off which we should see a prototype in april. Next would be the colour eink prototype, which we've been hearing off for years. Then we only have the Qualcomm's technique left, and then the battle can start.

02-23-2009, 05:16 AM	#19
elena Connoisseur Posts: 83 Karma: 50001 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Italy Device: CyBook Gen3	I wouldn't read on it even if they'd threaten me with a gun... the contrast really sucks! what's the point in having color with a screen like that? It's just a worse reading experience.

02-23-2009, 09:18 AM	#21
pilotbob Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,832 Karma: 11844413 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa, FL USA Device: Kindle Touch	I expect this is a prototype. Would they really bring a product that slow to market? BOb

02-23-2009, 09:25 AM	#22
giddion Connoisseur Posts: 73 Karma: 186 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: CT, USA Device: samsung i910 now - cybook later	Looking at the reports and demos I've seen around the web I'd say the display would improve many fold if they just gave it a matte finish.

02-23-2009, 10:18 AM	#23
ProDigit Karmaniac Posts: 2,553 Karma: 11499146 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Miami FL Device: PRS-505, Jetbook, + Mini, +Color, Astak Ez Reader Pro, PPW1, Aura H2O	I'm glad other manufacturers are trying to get their piece of the cake! Perhaps if they used a more metallic reflective background, or more like a reflector like background (like on a bike, reflecting the light at a certain angle), the screen would have a better appearance than with a plastic white background... It's probably a TFT-based screen with no backlight, which could explain the slightly darker tint (plus the touchscreen layer).

02-28-2009, 05:01 PM	#24
PK1 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle Device: kindle 2	I like the looks of DR1000. size is nice

03-01-2009, 12:29 AM	#25
Mr. Dalliard Zealot Posts: 143 Karma: 35 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Device: Kindle 3	Thankfully, the FLEPia will be out of my price range for quite sometime. By the time I'll be able to afford one, the technology will have progressed far enough to make me want one.