Text and images on k2 not as dark as k1

Matches Malone · 02-25-2009, 09:58 PM

Hi just got the kindle 2 and I'm noticing right away that the text and images in books are not as dark and black as the original kindle. This seems like a step backwards. Has anyone else noticed this?
Here are some photos I made. I am not a professional photographer.
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Two new photos from D.V. Orden at the amazon kindle forum taken with a dslr
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Nate the great · 02-25-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Matches Malone

Hi just got the kindle 2 and I'm noticing right away that the text and images in books are not as dark and black as the original kindle. This seems like a step backwards. I'm gonna try and post some pictures soon. Has anyone else noticed this?

This could be because the original Kindle had only 4 shades, and the K2 has 16. Or the K2 could have better image software.

Ervserver · 02-25-2009, 10:06 PM

Kindle II has battery saving technology, having a darker images/text means using more juice. People like to have lot of juice. Its compromise

desertgrandma · 02-25-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Matches Malone

Hi just got the kindle 2 and I'm noticing right away that the text and images in books are not as dark and black as the original kindle. This seems like a step backwards. I'm gonna try and post some pictures soon. Has anyone else noticed this?

Heard another poster say the same thing over on the K2 forums.

nelamvr6 · 02-25-2009, 10:13 PM

I have not compared the two side by side, but I can say that I have not had a single issue reading the K2. The text looks sharp and clear to me.

bwaldron · 02-25-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ervserver

Kindle II has battery saving technology, having a darker images/text means using more juice. People like to have lot of juice. Its compromise

I really don't think this applies with the e-ink screens, does it?

desertgrandma · 02-25-2009, 10:26 PM

Have sent a message to the duck. She has both K's.

Should be interesting to see the difference.

Matches Malone · 02-25-2009, 10:57 PM

added pics to first post

stevenmoy · 02-25-2009, 11:57 PM

most likely the image inside the book is color, when Kindle 2 has more shades of gray, it can draw the gray that matches closer to the original color picture.

S.Canton · 02-26-2009, 12:23 AM

I hadn't really noticed this to be honest, but I know the K2 is capable of a much higher gradient, so perhaps that's a factor.

Matches Malone · 02-26-2009, 12:29 AM

If you look at the last picture I uploaded you can see the ghosting problem on the kindle 2 that's not evident on the kindle 1. both those photos are from pages right after a large picture in the book.

Ervserver · 02-26-2009, 12:34 AM

Dunno I sorta made it up as a possible solution. It's my Dell training, I can't help it

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Originally Posted by bwaldron

I really don't think this applies with the e-ink screens, does it?

nremondelli · 02-26-2009, 12:43 AM

I noticed the same thing and was going to post a question. I don't have my first Kindle to compare it to, but I can tell the text isn't nearly as dark. Not sure what to do with it.

Also, when I go from screensaver to text, I can still see the slide power button text faintly on the screen. Anyone else?

stevenmoy · 02-26-2009, 12:49 AM

try bump the font size to the largest size and study the character to see if black is really black.

bwaldron · 02-26-2009, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ervserver

Dunno I sorta made it up as a possible solution. It's my Dell training, I can't help it

02-25-2009, 09:58 PM	#1
Matches Malone Connoisseur Posts: 67 Karma: 9218 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NY, USA Device: PW2, Ipad	Text and images on k2 not as dark as k1 Hi just got the kindle 2 and I'm noticing right away that the text and images in books are not as dark and black as the original kindle. This seems like a step backwards. Has anyone else noticed this? Here are some photos I made. I am not a professional photographer. [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] kindle1 [IMG][/IMG] kindle2 [IMG][/IMG] kindle2 [IMG][/IMG] kindle1 kindle2 [IMG][/IMG] kindle1 kindle1 text kindle2 text kindle1 kindle2 with ghosting(look in the middle you can see part of the picture and text from the previous page) kindle1 with largest font [IMG][/IMG] kindle2 with largest font [IMG][/IMG] Two new photos from D.V. Orden at the amazon kindle forum taken with a dslr [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] Last edited by Matches Malone; 02-26-2009 at 06:30 PM. Reason: added some more images

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02-25-2009, 10:06 PM	#3
Ervserver Wizard Posts: 2,624 Karma: 1008294 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Iowa, USA Device: Nook Simple Touch	Kindle II has battery saving technology, having a darker images/text means using more juice. People like to have lot of juice. Its compromise

02-25-2009, 10:13 PM	#5
nelamvr6 Groupie Posts: 156 Karma: 9088 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New London, CT USA Device: Kobo Libra Color	I have not compared the two side by side, but I can say that I have not had a single issue reading the K2. The text looks sharp and clear to me.

02-25-2009, 10:26 PM	#7
desertgrandma Enjoying the show.... Posts: 14,270 Karma: 10462843 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Arizona Device: A K1, Kindle Paperwhite, an Ipod, IPad2, Iphone, an Ipad Mini & macAir	Have sent a message to the duck. She has both K's. Should be interesting to see the difference.

02-25-2009, 10:57 PM	#8
Matches Malone Connoisseur Posts: 67 Karma: 9218 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NY, USA Device: PW2, Ipad	added pics to first post

02-25-2009, 11:57 PM	#9
stevenmoy Zealot Posts: 133 Karma: 348 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: Kindle 2	most likely the image inside the book is color, when Kindle 2 has more shades of gray, it can draw the gray that matches closer to the original color picture.

02-26-2009, 12:23 AM	#10
S.Canton Groupie Posts: 174 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Kindle 2	I hadn't really noticed this to be honest, but I know the K2 is capable of a much higher gradient, so perhaps that's a factor.

02-26-2009, 12:29 AM	#11
Matches Malone Connoisseur Posts: 67 Karma: 9218 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NY, USA Device: PW2, Ipad	If you look at the last picture I uploaded you can see the ghosting problem on the kindle 2 that's not evident on the kindle 1. both those photos are from pages right after a large picture in the book.

02-26-2009, 12:43 AM	#13
nremondelli Zealot Posts: 122 Karma: 52 Join Date: Nov 2008 Device: none	I noticed the same thing and was going to post a question. I don't have my first Kindle to compare it to, but I can tell the text isn't nearly as dark. Not sure what to do with it. Also, when I go from screensaver to text, I can still see the slide power button text faintly on the screen. Anyone else?

02-26-2009, 12:49 AM	#14
stevenmoy Zealot Posts: 133 Karma: 348 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: Kindle 2	try bump the font size to the largest size and study the character to see if black is really black.