[GUI Plugin] Modify ePub - Page 78

deback · 12-14-2017, 07:13 PM

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deback · 12-14-2017, 07:16 PM

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jackie_w · 12-14-2017, 07:56 PM

Just to add a bit more anecdotal info... I also have been manually removing page-map.xml files from epubs for several years. It all started in my Sony PRS-xxx days when, as far as I can remember, the Sony wouldn't turn pages properly when one of these little ******s was present.

I don't see them very often but I've continued to remove them ever since. I don't think I've ever tried one on a Kobo to see if the Kobo Adobe software dealt with them any better than the Sony Adobe software did.

I guess some might see this removal as an act of 'epub vandalism' but, personally, I've never seen much use for "real"page numbers in fiction books. As long as ADE's 'fake' page numbers give me a feel for whether the book is short/medium/long and they're also consistent between ADE on Sony/Kobo and Android that's always been good enough for me.

deback · 12-14-2017, 08:19 PM

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davidfor · 12-14-2017, 08:52 PM

I did put this on my Kobo. The result is interesting and sort of what deback is seeing.

The basic thing is that at the bottom of the screen, it is showing page numbering per chapter instead of the full book. There are two problems with the numbering. Firstly, the first page is always shown as 2. But, the count for the chapter is correct. And like what deback is seeing, it always is "of 2".

While working out what was happening, I turned on the option to show page numbers in the margin. This was interesting as it showed the page numbers from the page-map. So this show "ii", "iii" and then changed back to 1 when it reached chapter 1. There is a problem with these but part of that is the book. The Roman numerals are not in order, but they aren't in order in the page-map, the page-list or the spine. So, I think that is actually correct because the page numbers in the page-map is a string to be displayed rather than a counter.

I'll have a better look at home and drop it into ADE to see whether that matches the behaviour on the Kobo.

deback · 12-14-2017, 10:08 PM

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BetterRed · 12-14-2017, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by deback

Thank you, but my second post of the image is easier to read than yours. 400% is too much of an enlargement, so the image is more blurry. My second post was either a 200% or possibly a 300% enlargement. What does it matter, anyway? I've typed out what the page-numbering says at the top of ADE, and I didn't lie about what I typed. Just accept what I've told you all.

What I see is in this post is another 320x29 pixel image, the same as the first one. You can't expect folks to chase links to unknown image hosts (postimg.org), that are possibly riddled with dubious content, when the MR board has perfectly good image hosting facility.

See item 9 para 4 in the MR Posting Guidelines. there's a link at bottom of this and every other page.

BR

Divingduck · 12-15-2017, 10:55 AM

This is from the early day's of making epub. Maybe this will help to understand Adobe page mapping a bit better.

Divingduck · 12-15-2017, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jackie_w

I guess some might see this removal as an act of 'epub vandalism' ...

[OT on]
Well, as I am the one who ask why, maybe a little explanation. I wonder often about people that are complaining and argument/acting without understand why behaviors are as they are. (Seems to be a very common behavior these times in peoples minds). I simply wanted to understood his intension.

I don't see it as a vandalism, it is more a thing I describe above and ends in something like: I don't understand it, let's delete it.

It do not brother me because people can do what they want with their own books or as a german sometimes say: Des Menschen Wille ist sein Himmelreich.
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jackie_w · 12-15-2017, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divingduck

It do not brother me because people can do what they want with their own books or as a german sometimes say: Des Menschen Wille ist sein Himmelreich.

Oh, yes

I've occasionally seen posts from people whose first task with a new epub is to remove all CSS files. It makes me wince but, as you say, everyone is free to make their own choice. Edits by others are "wanton vandalism". Edits by me are "careful, logical surgery"

JSWolf · 12-23-2017, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by davidfor

I'll have a better look at home and drop it into ADE to see whether that matches the behaviour on the Kobo.

What are your results?

Rachel · 04-23-2018, 10:16 AM

I have been using the Modify Epub plug in to ensure that any changes I make to the cover or metadata of a book is saved in my library. When I use the plugin now, I am getting an epub to epub conversion resulting in an epub and original e-pub file in the folder. I do't think I have changed anything and wonder if anybody has any idea what is causing this.

In the dialogue page I tick the following:

Metadata jacket - Remove legacy metata jacket; Add/replace metadata jacket

Covers - Insert or replace cover

Metadata - Update metadata

Thank you for any help you can offer.

DNSB · 04-23-2018, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rachel

I have been using the Modify Epub plug in to ensure that any changes I make to the cover or metadata of a book is saved in my library. When I use the plugin now, I am getting an epub to epub conversion resulting in an epub and original e-pub file in the folder. I do't think I have changed anything and wonder if anybody has any idea what is causing this.

In the dialogue page I tick the following:

Metadata jacket - Remove legacy metata jacket; Add/replace metadata jacket

Covers - Insert or replace cover

Metadata - Update metadata

Thank you for any help you can offer.

That is normal and expected. The modified file is the filename.epub, the original file before the modification is the filename.original_epub. As far as I know, this can not be disabled, the only customization for the plugin is to disable/enable the prompt to save the modified file(s) on completion.

jackie_w · 04-23-2018, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rachel

I have been using the Modify Epub plug in to ensure that any changes I make to the cover or metadata of a book is saved in my library. When I use the plugin now, I am getting an epub to epub conversion resulting in an epub and original e-pub file in the folder. I do't think I have changed anything and wonder if anybody has any idea what is causing this.

It must be possible to do this because 'Modify Epub' overwrites the .epub for me. BTW the way yours is currently working is not doing an epub-to-epub conversion it's just saving the before & after versions of Modify Epub.

I think the solution is to go to calibre Preferences - Tweaks (in Advanced section) and look for the one called 'Save original file when converting/polishing from same format to same format'. There are 2 items in this particular Tweak. I think you need to change the second one

Code:

save_original_format_when_polishing = False

DoctorOhh · 04-23-2018, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rachel

When I use the plugin now, I am getting an epub to epub conversion resulting in an epub and original e-pub file in the folder. I do't think I have changed anything and wonder if anybody has any idea what is causing this.

It is not doing "an epub to epub conversion" it is creating the original epub because you modified the epub and this is a precaution whenever the epub is changed due to a full conversion or due to simple modifications. I believe following jackie_w's advice might avoid this, if not simply delete the original afterwards.

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12-14-2017, 07:56 PM	#1158
jackie_w Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,252 Karma: 16544692 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: UK Device: ClaraHD, Forma, Libra2, Clara2E, LibraCol, PBTouchHD3	Just to add a bit more anecdotal info... I also have been manually removing page-map.xml files from epubs for several years. It all started in my Sony PRS-xxx days when, as far as I can remember, the Sony wouldn't turn pages properly when one of these little ******s was present. I don't see them very often but I've continued to remove them ever since. I don't think I've ever tried one on a Kobo to see if the Kobo Adobe software dealt with them any better than the Sony Adobe software did. I guess some might see this removal as an act of 'epub vandalism' but, personally, I've never seen much use for "real"page numbers in fiction books. As long as ADE's 'fake' page numbers give me a feel for whether the book is short/medium/long and they're also consistent between ADE on Sony/Kobo and Android that's always been good enough for me.

12-14-2017, 08:52 PM	#1160
davidfor Grand Sorcerer Posts: 24,905 Karma: 47303824 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Device: Kobo:Touch,Glo, AuraH2O, GloHD,AuraONE, ClaraHD, Libra H2O; tolinoepos	I did put this on my Kobo. The result is interesting and sort of what deback is seeing. The basic thing is that at the bottom of the screen, it is showing page numbering per chapter instead of the full book. There are two problems with the numbering. Firstly, the first page is always shown as 2. But, the count for the chapter is correct. And like what deback is seeing, it always is "of 2". While working out what was happening, I turned on the option to show page numbers in the margin. This was interesting as it showed the page numbers from the page-map. So this show "ii", "iii" and then changed back to 1 when it reached chapter 1. There is a problem with these but part of that is the book. The Roman numerals are not in order, but they aren't in order in the page-map, the page-list or the spine. So, I think that is actually correct because the page numbers in the page-map is a string to be displayed rather than a counter. I'll have a better look at home and drop it into ADE to see whether that matches the behaviour on the Kobo.

04-23-2018, 10:16 AM	#1167
Rachel Zealot Posts: 115 Karma: 260 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Suffolk, England Device: sony prs505, kindle, ithing	I have been using the Modify Epub plug in to ensure that any changes I make to the cover or metadata of a book is saved in my library. When I use the plugin now, I am getting an epub to epub conversion resulting in an epub and original e-pub file in the folder. I do't think I have changed anything and wonder if anybody has any idea what is causing this. In the dialogue page I tick the following: Metadata jacket - Remove legacy metata jacket; Add/replace metadata jacket Covers - Insert or replace cover Metadata - Update metadata Thank you for any help you can offer.