Nook Partitioning Update - Page 12

DNSB · 01-08-2018, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZodWallop

That seems strange. Why would Microsoft make Eject behave differently in two different areas? This seems destined to cause user issues.

(I'm not arguing you are incorrect. Just saying it's a weird programming decision by MS.)

Great Ghu alone knows why that programming decision was made. Personally, I suspect multiple programmers who weren't talking enough to each other.

barryem · 01-09-2018, 05:30 PM

I ran into a different issue with my Glowlight 3 today. I had previously copied books from my Dropbox ebook folder to the Nook. Then, after having updated several of those books, the other day I re-copied them to the Nook. I simply copied them over the original files and told them to replace the originals. They didn't replace all of them. Instead some were duplicated. I have no idea why.

I did check the file names of some of the duplicates in Windows Explorer and I couldn't see any differences, which is strange because Windows shouldn't allow duplicate file names, but I guess the Nook does. Of course it's possible there were invisible characters or maybe some had 8 bit characters and others had 16 bit. I didn't try a hex dump of titles.

Anyway, I deleted all the books on my Nook and then copied them all in again from Dropbox. Then I ejected by right clicking on the Nook in Windows Exploerer and clicking Eject. It did eject and Windows said I could safely remove it when I pulled the cable the Nook popped up an error message. It said some service, whose name I can't recall and which wasn't familiar to me, had stopped. I tapped the OK button and it went away and came right back. I kept tapping and it kept coming back. I then tried turning the Nook off and it brought up the dialog asking if I wanted to power down or reboot and the service stopped dialog came up on top of that. I wasn't able to turn it off.

I hit the home button and that seems to have fixed it. It brought me to the home screen and everything seemed normal. To be safe I did reboot it.

Anyway it seems they still have a few bugs.

Barry

ZodWallop · 01-09-2018, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barryem

I ran into a different issue with my Glowlight 3 today. I had previously copied books from my Dropbox ebook folder to the Nook. Then, after having updated several of those books, the other day I re-copied them to the Nook. I simply copied them over the original files and told them to replace the originals. They didn't replace all of them. Instead some were duplicated. I have no idea why.

I did check the file names of some of the duplicates in Windows Explorer and I couldn't see any differences, which is strange because Windows shouldn't allow duplicate file names, but I guess the Nook does. Of course it's possible there were invisible characters or maybe some had 8 bit characters and others had 16 bit. I didn't try a hex dump of titles.

Anyway, I deleted all the books on my Nook and then copied them all in again from Dropbox. Then I ejected by right clicking on the Nook in Windows Exploerer and clicking Eject. It did eject and Windows said I could safely remove it when I pulled the cable the Nook popped up an error message. It said some service, whose name I can't recall and which wasn't familiar to me, had stopped. I tapped the OK button and it went away and came right back. I kept tapping and it kept coming back. I then tried turning the Nook off and it brought up the dialog asking if I wanted to power down or reboot and the service stopped dialog came up on top of that. I wasn't able to turn it off.

I hit the home button and that seems to have fixed it. It brought me to the home screen and everything seemed normal. To be safe I did reboot it.

Anyway it seems they still have a few bugs.

Barry

Am I being like Wolf if I suggest you could avoid all that by using Calibre?

barryem · 01-09-2018, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZodWallop

Am I being like Wolf if I suggest you could avoid all that by using Calibre?

That is quite Wolfish of you.

I only use Calibre for conversions. I don't have any interest in a library program. I have a very good system that I like. I'd rather have this problem than change that.

In any case it wasn't that hard to get past it.

Barry

Calenorn · 01-10-2018, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barryem

I did check the file names of some of the duplicates in Windows Explorer and I couldn't see any differences, which is strange because Windows shouldn't allow duplicate file names, but I guess the Nook does.

I believe the NOOK recognizes books by the title in the metadata, not by the file name visible in Windows Explorer.

barryem · 01-10-2018, 01:05 PM

You're right, of course. And I didn't think to check that at the time.

Barry

shaphat · 01-10-2018, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aronchav

I updated to 48.3.12 as soon as the device was charged, before I put any books on it. The USB disconnect problem was present immediately. Several times, the device lost all of my books and I erased, deregistered, and started over. Everything that was on it had been sideloaded from Google Books or Project Gutenberg. I'm pretty sure the first time it happened, I had not activated ADE yet, so everything on it was just from Project Gutenberg.

My PC is running the latest version of Win 10. As others have said, the USB connect screen does not go away even though the PC says that it is disconnected. One user mentioned leaving it connected for half an hour to be safe, but I've found that leaving it connected for a few minutes is safe. But the screen never does go away, so it's a guessing game.

I noticed on this thread there is a newer beta 48.3.20, but I don't see a link for it. How do I find the newest betas?

same, I have the identical issue with the usb dc problem and having it ignore my sideloaded content afterwards. Also using Win 10

barryem · 01-10-2018, 04:11 PM

I found the problem with the duplicate books and it wasn't a Nook problem after all. I copied those files from my Dropbox folder to the Nook and it seems Dropbox duplicated them. I had updated a few books on my laptop and when they no longer matched the files in the Dropbox folder on my little HP Stream (named Tweety since all my computers are cartoon characters) it created a duplicate in my Dropbox folder, appdending "Duplicate from Tweety that's been modified". Personally that seems like a Dropbox bug but they might think it's a feature. Of course I'm right.

Anyway I'm glad to know the Nook wasn't the cause of the problem.

Barry

Pajamaman · 01-10-2018, 04:50 PM

What is the safest way to eject the device? Via calibre or via ejecting in windows explorers?

Calenorn · 01-10-2018, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pajamaman

What is the safest way to eject the device? Via calibre or via ejecting in windows explorers?

Just be sure NOT to eject using the little icon in the notification area on the task bar. That seems to have been the source of my troubles.

shaphat · 01-10-2018, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calenorn

Just be sure NOT to eject using the little icon in the notification area on the task bar. That seems to have been the source of my troubles.

indeed

ZodWallop · 01-10-2018, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pajamaman

What is the safest way to eject the device? Via calibre or via ejecting in windows explorers?

I've only sideloaded and ejected using Calibre and have never had an issue.

Pajamaman · 01-10-2018, 08:44 PM

K, thanks. I never use that anyway.

ZodWallop · 01-10-2018, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pajamaman

K, thanks. I never use that anyway.

Was that directed to me? If so, I was only answering the question you asked.

JSWolf · 01-11-2018, 10:20 AM

I've ejected with both Calibre and the Windows way. No problem either way.

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01-09-2018, 05:30 PM	#167
barryem Wizard Posts: 2,459 Karma: 68781975 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Arkansas Device: Paperwhite 4	I ran into a different issue with my Glowlight 3 today. I had previously copied books from my Dropbox ebook folder to the Nook. Then, after having updated several of those books, the other day I re-copied them to the Nook. I simply copied them over the original files and told them to replace the originals. They didn't replace all of them. Instead some were duplicated. I have no idea why. I did check the file names of some of the duplicates in Windows Explorer and I couldn't see any differences, which is strange because Windows shouldn't allow duplicate file names, but I guess the Nook does. Of course it's possible there were invisible characters or maybe some had 8 bit characters and others had 16 bit. I didn't try a hex dump of titles. Anyway, I deleted all the books on my Nook and then copied them all in again from Dropbox. Then I ejected by right clicking on the Nook in Windows Exploerer and clicking Eject. It did eject and Windows said I could safely remove it when I pulled the cable the Nook popped up an error message. It said some service, whose name I can't recall and which wasn't familiar to me, had stopped. I tapped the OK button and it went away and came right back. I kept tapping and it kept coming back. I then tried turning the Nook off and it brought up the dialog asking if I wanted to power down or reboot and the service stopped dialog came up on top of that. I wasn't able to turn it off. I hit the home button and that seems to have fixed it. It brought me to the home screen and everything seemed normal. To be safe I did reboot it. Anyway it seems they still have a few bugs. Barry

01-10-2018, 01:05 PM	#171
barryem Wizard Posts: 2,459 Karma: 68781975 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Arkansas Device: Paperwhite 4	You're right, of course. And I didn't think to check that at the time. Barry

01-10-2018, 04:11 PM	#173
barryem Wizard Posts: 2,459 Karma: 68781975 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Arkansas Device: Paperwhite 4	I found the problem with the duplicate books and it wasn't a Nook problem after all. I copied those files from my Dropbox folder to the Nook and it seems Dropbox duplicated them. I had updated a few books on my laptop and when they no longer matched the files in the Dropbox folder on my little HP Stream (named Tweety since all my computers are cartoon characters) it created a duplicate in my Dropbox folder, appdending "Duplicate from Tweety that's been modified". Personally that seems like a Dropbox bug but they might think it's a feature. Of course I'm right. Anyway I'm glad to know the Nook wasn't the cause of the problem. Barry

01-10-2018, 04:50 PM	#174
Pajamaman Wizard Posts: 2,861 Karma: 10700629 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Canada Device: Onyx Nova	What is the safest way to eject the device? Via calibre or via ejecting in windows explorers?

01-10-2018, 08:44 PM	#178
Pajamaman Wizard Posts: 2,861 Karma: 10700629 Join Date: May 2016 Location: Canada Device: Onyx Nova	K, thanks. I never use that anyway.

01-11-2018, 10:20 AM	#180
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,898 Karma: 146918083 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I've ejected with both Calibre and the Windows way. No problem either way.