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Old 11-08-2017, 01:24 PM   #31246
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One postage stamp backyard can easily support a half dozen chips. My 8x12 Taj MaHen can handle that many even if I can't let them loose on the street. (We always did, and they'd come running down the street when I called them to tuck in for the night, but now we've got a coyote that thinks they're yummy, so they have to stay in the coop.)
Check your city ordinances before trying this at home.
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Old 11-08-2017, 01:59 PM   #31247
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Old 11-08-2017, 02:28 PM   #31248
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I had a boss whose desk was right beside the A/C while mine was in a hot corner where the air didn't circulate without a fan. My co-worker, who sat next to me, had knee and hip issues that were aggravated by having a fan blowing on her, so I felt your pain. Glad it's sorted out.
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We have the hot/cold discussion every day at work. Same temp and half the people are hot and the other half are cold. The hot people turn on a fan and the cold people grab a portable heater. It's ridiculous sometimes!

I wear t-shirts year round because I'm always hot. I also will go turn off those portable heaters after a bit too.
I don't mind wearing warm clothes, but I have my limits. I don't want to look like Michelin Man and it shouldn't impair my movement. I know that the back of the store (storage, workshop and office) will be warmer than the store since the door opens a when customers come in. I know when it's really cold outside it'll be cold at floor level in the store. Last year the store paid for my thermal socks . But the temperature needs to be comfortable whether it's busy or not.
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Old 11-08-2017, 03:00 PM   #31249
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Many cities have now allowed a limited number of hens. A useful resource is www.backyardchickens.com.
There is a ban on chickens in our city.
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Old 11-08-2017, 03:04 PM   #31250
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I don't mind wearing warm clothes, but I have my limits. I don't want to look like Michelin Man and it shouldn't impair my movement. I know that the back of the store (storage, workshop and office) will be warmer than the store since the door opens a when customers come in. I know when it's really cold outside it'll be cold at floor level in the store. Last year the store paid for my thermal socks . But the temperature needs to be comfortable whether it's busy or not.
So make Dad switch desks with you for a week. Then he might see that the *location* makes a huge difference.

eggs: 50 cents difference to the next size of eggs? Wow. Back in the 90's (early internet), I read a government pamphlet stating: if the difference between a dozen of one size and a dozen of the NEXT size is 10 cents or less, the bigger ones are a better value for the money. Volume-wise. So, since mine are usually priced exactly 10 cents apart, I get the X-Large eggs. Jumbo would be an even better buy (another 10 cents) but then the size starts affecting baking results.
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Old 11-08-2017, 03:09 PM   #31251
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So make Dad switch desks with you for a week. Then he might see that the *location* makes a huge difference.

eggs: 50 cents difference to the next size of eggs? Wow. Back in the 90's (early internet), I read a government pamphlet stating: if the difference between a dozen of one size and a dozen of the NEXT size is 10 cents or less, the bigger ones are a better value for the money. Volume-wise. So, since mine are usually priced exactly 10 cents apart, I get the X-Large eggs. Jumbo would be an even better buy (another 10 cents) but then the size starts affecting baking results.
I just called our local store. The eggs are coming from the warehouse broken.
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:32 PM   #31252
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eggs: 50 cents difference to the next size of eggs? Wow. Back in the 90's (early internet), I read a government pamphlet stating: if the difference between a dozen of one size and a dozen of the NEXT size is 10 cents or less, the bigger ones are a better value for the money. Volume-wise. So, since mine are usually priced exactly 10 cents apart, I get the X-Large eggs. Jumbo would be an even better buy (another 10 cents) but then the size starts affecting baking results.
It's even worse than that; extra large eggs aren't just 50¢ more, they're 50% more, unless large eggs are on sale, when it's even more. And large brown eggs are always at least 20¢ more than large white.
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:41 PM   #31253
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It's even worse than that; extra large eggs aren't just 50¢ more, they're 50% more, unless large eggs are on sale, when it's even more. And large brown eggs are always at least 20¢ more than large white.
Do we need to send you a care package? Yikes.
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:03 PM   #31254
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I just called our local store. The eggs are coming from the warehouse broken.
Don'tcha just open 'em and check? I do. Although agreed, if you can't find ONE without broken shells, that's a bear.

If I had to keep chickens, it would be a problem due to the coyote pack that resides in the copse on our property. (sigh). I was thinking about keeping some geese, as a home-security system of the rural kind, but same thing--don't want to have to deal with murdered geese. (Or the goats I thought about keeping for lawn maintenance and goat's milk.)

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Old 11-08-2017, 08:20 PM   #31255
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Don'tcha just open 'em and check? I do. Although agreed, if you can't find ONE without broken shells, that's a bear.
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I open the carton and LIFT, not just visually check. If an egg is stuck in place, it won't come out and I'm minus an egg. I don't mind people swapping a cracked egg into a carton which is accumulating all the bad ones.
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:35 PM   #31256
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Don'tcha just open 'em and check? I do. Although agreed, if you can't find ONE without broken shells, that's a bear.

If I had to keep chickens, it would be a problem due to the coyote pack that resides in the copse on our property. (sigh). I was thinking about keeping some geese, as a home-security system of the rural kind, but same thing--don't want to have to deal with murdered geese. (Or the goats I thought about keeping for lawn maintenance and goat's milk.)

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We didn't buy eggs last Sunday which is why I called the store. Every carton we checked had broke eggs.
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:10 PM   #31257
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With regard to a misbehaving Firefox and Thunderbird...

- I've created a new profile and deleted the old one.
- I've updated all the drivers, except those for the Intel Graphics card; the driver I'm using is the last one with Gamma Correction (Intel removed this setting from newer versions, and I've ranted about that before).
- I've removed the Intel Rapid Storage driver, which I installed more than a year ago to circumvent some sort of bug/regression in Windows; with the standard drivers, the computer would freeze randomly. Installing RST fixed that. (And I've ranted about that as well.)

At this time, Firefox and Thunderbird seem to behave normally again, not hanging the computer for a second or so when starting or performing an action such as opening a tab/e-mail. As I've not done anything to Thunderbird, the fix must have been one of the driver updates or the removal of RST.

Sometimes, I hate computers. As Dijkstra said somewhere in the 60's: If we would build houses like we build software, everything would fall apart days after being finished.
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:22 PM   #31258
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I open the carton and LIFT, not just visually check. If an egg is stuck in place, it won't come out and I'm minus an egg. I don't mind people swapping a cracked egg into a carton which is accumulating all the bad ones.
Same here. I make sure all twelve are unbroken and that they can move freely (not stuck).
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Don'tcha just open 'em and check? I do. Although agreed, if you can't find ONE without broken shells, that's a bear.

If I had to keep chickens, it would be a problem due to the coyote pack that resides in the copse on our property. (sigh). I was thinking about keeping some geese, as a home-security system of the rural kind, but same thing--don't want to have to deal with murdered geese. (Or the goats I thought about keeping for lawn maintenance and goat's milk.)
We have coyotes and foxes and these babies:



They couple those teeth with a blood-curdling shriek, too.

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What in the name of whatever is THAT? It looks like a rattified piranha. I'm not scared that easily, but if I'd meet something like that, especially more than one, I'd probably... run. Fast.

edit: and both Firefox and Thunderbird started jacking around again for whatever reason. Can't think of anything else to do. Both programs have been cleaned up, all drivers have been upgraded, and Windows itself is cleaned. edit2: and 10 minutes later, they're both fine again. Daaaaaarnn....

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